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    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    Why does it matter if the best gear is Coil or not (based on the original post of this thread)? If the best gear isn't in Coil, then very few, if any, would be running Coil if the best gear isn't there.
    To many having the best gear and challenging the end-game content means that it's no longer gear that's gonna be the reason that a group of people will be able to kill it but skill.

    A lot of people still would but then again, you'll just try and justify yourself by trying to say it's not a challenge because there's no gear. Which if funny because there's people still doing old content that's not relevant anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by OmniEx View Post
    You were complaining that there weren't many options to gear before starting coils for a "reliable coil set" I provided you with one that got you to i99 with the required accuracy where you didn't ever need to step into coil for. Now you want to be able to get it in 2mins as well? You really do want everything handed out to you as well don't you?
    Do you know what a "set" is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    The game sadly lacks tank and spank mechanics on most fights.

    Honestly this is the first MMO I have seen with people demanding to have the top gear not doing the top dungeon.
    No what this game lacks is slowly transitioning it's player base into understanding standard raid mechanics outside of tank n spank since tank n spank is usually what you do 90% of the time with most dungeon bosses in FFXIV besides some unique ones.

    I've been in many MMO's that have a balanced gear progression that stems well outside of just raiding so that you can raid more reliably. Yet just like everyone else you seem to assume that I or anyone else is asking for the same equivalent ilvl gear from Coil.

    I ain't asking for a ilvl110 set outside of Second Coil of Bahamut yet "gear sets" that help down bosses. Ilvl100 Gear with poison resist to ease turn 6's and balanced stats for raiding that don't force players out of their accuracy requirements and aren't lacking with their secondary stats either. Yet keep assuming I want ilvl100 gear with 1M of every stat so I can go into coil and 1HKO everything on sight.
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    ^ Yes but apparently you don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmniEx View Post
    ^ Yes but apparently you don't
    Allagan, AF2, and Weathered are 3 sets not 1. Yet I guess I'll go change my definition of 1 set to 3 sets equal 1 just to please you and only you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    I am getting the feeling some of those pro-coil arguments are based on contentselling
    As a ex pro end game player, no. The average end game player doesn't care about content selling. Many of the elitists that are in end game thought have a sadistic superiority complex and god forbid you take their one pleasure in life that allows them to justify insulting other players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Allagan, AF2, and Weathered are 3 sets not 1. Yet I guess I'll go change my definition of 1 set to 3 sets equal 1 just to please you and only you.
    A gear set is any combination of gear that you can wear that fulfills whatever requirement you have. For example the PLD 2.1 BiS "gearset" included gear from Myth as well as Allagan to form one gear set. Just because gear doesn't share the same name doesn't mean it's not classified as a set when mixed and matched but please continue to spout more of your nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmniEx View Post
    A gear set is any combination of gear that you can wear that fulfills whatever requirement you have. For example the PLD 2.1 BiS "gearset" included gear from Myth as well as Allagan to form one gear set. Just because gear doesn't share the same name doesn't mean it's not classified as a set when mixed and matched but please continue to spout more of your nonsense.
    What ever you say, obviously your word is law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    What ever you say, obviously your word is law.
    Now that we've settled that you can continue to complain about how coil is too unforgiving and uses too many "zero-tolerance mechanics". But hey if you don't like your end-game top tier content to be hard I hear Hello Kitty Adventure Island has a very forgiving endgame scene maybe you'll like to play that instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmniEx View Post
    Now that we've settled that you can continue to complain about how coil is too unforgiving and uses too many "zero-tolerance mechanics". But hey if you don't like your end-game top tier content to be hard I hear Hello Kitty Adventure Island has a very forgiving endgame scene maybe you'll like to play that instead?
    Hand you the argument so you can move on. You choose to insult and complain, typical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    What ever you say, obviously your word is law.
    Nah. When what you're saying is different from most of others (who are generally in sync), your word is obviously the law.

    You guys better listen to this man, he's an ex pro gamer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    I ain't asking for a ilvl110 set outside of Second Coil of Bahamut yet "gear sets" that help down bosses. Ilvl100 Gear with poison resist to ease turn 6's and balanced stats for raiding that don't force players out of their accuracy requirements and aren't lacking with their secondary stats either. Yet keep assuming I want ilvl100 gear with 1M of every stat so I can go into coil and 1HKO everything on sight.
    There's no need for special gear sets, the content is balanced against the gears you can get now in the game, and there's the materia system for you to adjust your stats accordingly. There's no need for SE to be spending their time and create special gear sets for just one boss of a fight, it's a complete waste of resources and time. Additionally, secondary stats won't make or break your DPS/Mitigation/Healing in coil, it's good to have but its not neckbreak must-have. You sound like you aren't willing to put in the effort to learn the fight or use resources already available in the game.
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