Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[Menriq]

Gear won't help you with mechanics and the only people bothered by elitism are jealous players who desperately want to succeed but can't.

Actually, I'm a little put off by the elitism. What is the point in shoving it in people's face? Yes, I post in the progression threads, but people make a choice to visit those threads, so it's a different story. I don't walk around bragging. If people say something about my gear, then I'll respond, but other than that, it's whatever. As an example, I'm not the greatest in PvP. I'm not a fan of people who lord that over others, which is why I refuse to do it when I'm in the same position. Do I think it would be cool if the gear stood apart? Sure. With all of this said, I actually prefer those not doing Coil have good gear. Helps my daily roulette runs, FATE's, etc. go much quicker.

[DosonTheGreat]

Actually, I'm a little put off by the elitism. What is the point in shoving it in people's face? Yes, I post in the progression threads, but people make a choice to visit those threads, so it's a different story. I don't walk around bragging. If people say something about my gear, then I'll respond, but other than that, it's whatever. As an example, I'm not the greatest in PvP. I'm not a fan of people who lord that over others, which is why I refuse to do it when I'm in the same position. Do I think it would be cool if the gear stood apart? Sure. With all of this said, I actually prefer those not doing Coil have good gear. Helps my daily roulette runs, FATE's, etc. go much quicker.

If I didn't see you were wearing coil earrings I would say you must be too bad to do coil with that anti elitist attitude. Color me surprised.

[Menriq]

If I didn't see you were wearing coil earrings I would say you must be too bad to do coil with that anti elitist attitude. Color me surprised.

That's my whole point. I'm part of the group that was in top 5 of downing T9, but that doesn't make me any better than anyone else playing this game. Are there bard's better than me? Absolutely, and I'll be the first to admit it. Do I think the best gear HAS to be from Coil? That's debatable. If you want to have vanity items, mounts, etc. to display your accomplishments, then go for it. Maybe a good compromise is to have something only awarded when you down the content before it's nerfed. That way, you can still stand out, but there are paths to getting the equivalent gear.

[SarcasmMisser]

That's my whole point. I'm part of the group that was in top 5 of downing T9, but that doesn't make me any better than anyone else playing this game.

Just a minor nitpick, and I'm sure it only adds to your point, but your group was in the first 5 claimed. There was at least one jp group that cleared a week before you on Alexander server.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LVSu_qUr_hw

There was also another one that cleared the same day as you on Bahamut. There also groups that simply stick to server progression like our own group, it's why going around parading your kill is so asinine because beyond world first you really don't know how many bigger fish are out there. Until they do stuff to make tracking kills a exact science it's hard to take global rankings seriously beyond the first, so getting a big head about it like doson here just makes feel like a parody of serious wow raiders.

I'm sure doson's posts are just an exercise in hyperbole though in response to the anti-raiding crowd; If he followed progression he would of known of your group. Raiders being privileged with gear is sort of a given with any game that put serious effort into raids, I don't understand how it is controversial here.

[Menriq]

Just a minor nitpick, and I'm sure it only adds to your point, but your group was in the first 5 claimed. There was at least one jp group that cleared a week before you on Alexander server.

You are correct; I probably should have put a disclaimer in there. I was just trying to provide context since I'm sure not everyone was going to a look up on the lodestone to see if I had any credibility to what I was saying.

[DosonTheGreat]

That's my whole point. I'm part of the group that was in top 5 of downing T9, but that doesn't make me any better than anyone else playing this game. Are there bard's better than me? Absolutely, and I'll be the first to admit it. Do I think the best gear HAS to be from Coil? That's debatable. If you want to have vanity items, mounts, etc. to display your accomplishments, then go for it. Maybe a good compromise is to have something only awarded when you down the content before it's nerfed. That way, you can still stand out, but there are paths to getting the equivalent gear.

That would be a good idea. I once heard someone suggest that but then all the filthy casuals were all whining and saying you're not special for clearing coil before nerf and that no one cares and blah blah blah. So that's why I'm on the forums here. I'm here to complain just like those clowns.