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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    I have seen barely anyone moaning about it ingame and I play quite often. What's to say your sightings are any less of an accurate representation than mine?

    Proclaiming the majority of players do not like it is an outright lie. You have no real proof to back that up.
    i have given multiple statements about my proof then even said how SE is changing the quest based on the where i got my proof, if you want to pretend that SE is changing the quest for a minority group that's a joke we both know the majority dislikes the quest you can so other wise but it wouldn't be changed otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    i have given multiple statements about my proof then even said how SE is changing the quest based on the where i got my proof, if you want to pretend that SE is changing the quest for a minority group that's a joke we both know the majority dislikes the quest you can so other wise but it wouldn't be changed otherwise.
    Pretend? Nope you're the one delusional and pretending. You're just another one of those guys who like to think everyone's on their side to feel better about themselves when it's far from the truth.

    SE changing it: didn't happen yet. No news about supposed changes. Not valid proof.
    People on forums whining: People are more likely to post negative feedback than positive feedback. This applies to everything, even in the real world.
    People ingame whining: Anecdotal evidence. And see above.

    You're still wrong no matter how you want to put it. You have no proof that the majority of the playerbase does not like it.

    It's pretty obvious when an argument is weak when someone has to resort to speaking for others, to back up their points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
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    i have given all the proof and you want to invalidate it because you think otherwise?

    you can say its a weak argument but it's not SE is changing it, starting with the nov part they saw the outrage over it and now it's getting adjusted hmmm?
    then you have all the forums people yea people speak up when they are upset it happens but with 160 pages? you really wanna say that's nothing? when both the jp and na forums have threads just as long as each others? are you saying that's just a coincidence? then you have in game, when it comes to small complaints on the forums you never hear it in game yet people have complained and more in game over it.

    you can say you never saw it but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen in the end you use some small excuse to say i am wrong. please continue how come t6-9 isn't being even considered right now? i would say its because noone is complaining because people are happy with it, why are other things that players like not being considered here? why would this one specific thing change? simple it's because the majority hates it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
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    I still see no proof.

    160 pages of whining is not an accurate representation of the community, or acceptable proof that the majority does not like it. If everyone that liked the Animus questline posted about it, there may be a topic just as big and we will never know. You still fail to get the point that people that like or don't care about the quest WILL NOT SPEAK UP ABOUT IT. It's just easier to look at all the whine topics and say "oh everyone must hate it" than to think about all the people that don't care to post about it.

    When people go out of their way to give restaurants feedback its almost always complaining about the food, not telling them they liked the food. Those feedback does not necessarily mean that most people dislike the food. The same applies for these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
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    you still fail to see that if it wasn't a majority SE wouldn't have postponed the next part they wouldn't be adjusting the next part and wouldn't be looking for feedback on something every liked.

    you keep completly ignoring this but ok i see here you read what you want it's ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    You both have no proof because neither of you can speak for the majority of the community. Since complaints on the forums could easily be the vocal minority, there is no way to gauge whether or not a majority of the playerbase likes the Atma quest. The only way to be certain is to poll everyone which isn't going to happen. So let's go back to stating our own opinions rather than making sweeping accusations.
    SE is all the proof anyone needs that the majority hates the quest but people just act like this is normal like a company changes something players like because they just feel like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    you still fail to see that if it wasn't a majority SE wouldn't have postponed the next part they wouldn't be adjusting the next part and wouldn't be looking for feedback on something every liked.

    you keep completly ignoring this but ok i see here you read what you want it's ok.



    SE is all the proof anyone needs that the majority hates the quest but people just act like this is normal like a company changes something players like because they just feel like it.
    Did SE say it was because a majority of players hate the quest? Nope.

    They postponed it because "many players do not have Animus". That has nothing to do with the majority opinion. The majority of players not having an Animus is not the same as the majority of players not liking it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    Did SE say it was because a majority of players hate the quest? Nope.

    They postponed it because "many players do not have Animus". That has nothing to do with the majority opinion.
    yes then they are adjusting the next part because of the feedback they have gotten are you gonna ignore that? it has everything to do with majority opinion plenty of people already said they would feel to far behind if more was added already.
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