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    Awdogsgo2heaven's Avatar
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    King Koopa
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 50

    ATMA is AWESOME, more Content like it please

    I finished ATMA last week and I loved it, and after seeing all the 'negative' comments on here, I just wanted to let the DEVs know there are lots of us who love it and want more like it. This game seriously lacks enough grindy content! You finish everything, and get the best gear way too fast, and feel no accomplishment because of it. If they made it a content based, there might have been just a few fights that can be done in a couple of days and everyone would have had the new weapons already taking all value out of the Legendary weapons. There's no point in having 'Legendary' weapons if everyone can get them so easily. So I completely support you SE for adding this grindy content and hoping for more. Don't let the loud minority drown out the fact most people love it. Raiding fates reminded me of my FF11 days! Hope to see more content like it. I want to always feel the best gear I can get is always a distant goal, and not just 1 day away.

    ~ Koops
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Can I buy some hallucinogens from you?
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    Last edited by TheGrimace; 04-25-2014 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Perhaps "drugs" was too strong.

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    Memoe's Avatar
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    Rex Aetherpaw
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    Ragnarok
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    The problem isn't atma being grindy or anything. For me it's the FATEs and the RNG. Well, maybe a bit grind too, because what's more tedious than doing endless amounts of easy, uninteresting FATEs. I feel absolutely no accomplishment from doing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimace View Post
    Can I buy some hallucinogens from you?
    Lalafells have their own kind of high. It's a special kind of place...
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    I agree the game needs more Grind .. it also needs less RNG though.

    The Atma farm is a terrible concept, the book portion of the quest is a great long term goal though. (minus the waiting for hours for fates to spawn)

    Don't let the loud minority drown out the fact most people love it.
    This is pretty ridiculous also, I suspect you are in fact in the minority.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 04-25-2014 at 09:44 AM.

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    Blackmage Vivi
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    not sure if you didn't know or not but the minority like the atma quest while the majority is against it.
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    Slater Vonjager
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    not sure if you didn't know or not but the minority like the atma quest while the majority is against it.

    Prove it. Just because there are not any where near as many threads supporting the atma setup as there are mindlessly whining about it, does not mean that more people hate it then love it. Unless you personally interview every player until there is enough proof to support you're claim, you're wrong. Just as wrong as anyone claiming most people love it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    Said noone ever,
    Pretty sure he said it. So you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    Prove it. Just because there are not any where near as many threads supporting the atma setup as there are mindlessly whining about it, does not mean that more people hate it then love it. Unless you personally interview every player until there is enough proof to support you're claim, you're wrong. Just as wrong as anyone claiming most people love it.
    1 the forums.

    2 the servers if everyone loves it why does the majority on the servers hate it? no need to talk to every individual player when most of them are out in the open complaining and saying they hate it.
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    Aeryn Zael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    1 the forums.

    2 the servers if everyone loves it why does the majority on the servers hate it? no need to talk to every individual player when most of them are out in the open complaining and saying they hate it.
    The forums is a terrible example and you should feel terrible for trying to argue using that point. People that want to complain are a lot more likely to post about it than people that like it and post about how they like it. The forums is also a rather poor representation of the game's actual playerbase.

    Saying the majority of players hate it is also a rather foolish statement that you cannot prove. Unless you can show me a survey with a good sample size, that statement is nothing more than bs. For all we know, the majority of players are indifferent and don't care either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    The forums is a terrible example and you should feel terrible for trying to argue using that point. People that want to complain are a lot more likely to post about it than people that like it and post about how they like it. The forums is also a rather poor representation of the game's actual playerbase.

    Saying the majority of players hate it is also a rather foolish statement that you cannot prove. Unless you can show me a survey with a good sample size, that statement is nothing more than bs. For all we know, the majority of players are indifferent and don't care either way.
    are they indifferent? are you saying all the players on the game who complain and hate the atma quest are lying to everyone? when both the forums and the population in game match it says something then you have SE themselves saying barely anyone has it and is taking feedback on the quest hmm seems like something to me.
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    Last edited by Musashidon; 04-25-2014 at 12:36 PM.

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    ArchimedesVandiir's Avatar
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    Vanessa Starborn
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I for one like it, yes it took me about 5-7 days to get my Atma and some zones took over 9 hours in just one zone, but I look at it on the bright side. I got tons of company seals that I used to buy around 300-400 ventures for my retainers. About to start it again for my second atma weapon just to get it and get more ventures as a bonus. Now one thing I would really like to see and this relic questline is kind of similar but not quite, I want to see a system like the moogle trial weapons from XI, Highly customizable and not really too easy to get, some could be time consuming though, but they were worth it in the end.
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