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    Araeya Moonstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by fergalicious View Post
    I hate it because it is unfair.
    It seems that many in these forums don't actually understand the definition of "unfair". So much complaining that things aren't "fair". Let me just help you out with the definition of "fair".

    1. "Marked by impartiality and honesty : free from self-interest, prejudice, or favoritism"
    2. "Conforming with the established rules : consonant with merit or importance"

    In the context of Atma farming, the RNG is absolutely "fair". Just because a random number is generated faster for one person than another based upon an impartial code, that does not make the process unfair. So, please, don't ask for a fairer system. It wouldn't help. If you'd prefer to do 50 fates per week for three months, instead, ask for that. However, this throwing around of the word "fair" in these forums is ridiculous. It's become synonymous with "I want my stuff faster and to be attained more easily."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    luck and chance don't really bring anything to the table other than to those who are overly self inflated and feel the need to show off.
    Anyone who shows off something attained by luck or chance is an idiot, and most people who have good RNG luck aren't self-inflated and don't show off and are instead just happy/relieved they attained what they were working toward, so relying on that argument is also ridiculous. And it makes you look like someone who can't have a point of view without insulting people he/she doesn't know, which doesn't really help your case in the slightest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araeya View Post
    It seems that many in these forums don't actually understand the definition of "unfair"...
    But the definition you gave, "free from prejudice or favoritism," directly contradicts what you said. "Just because a random number is generated faster for one person than another"... Well, that's just it. That's basically the definition of unfair (in English). One person receives something differently than another person regardless of their input.

    You're confusing "fair roll" in statistics and probability (where each outcome is equally as likely) with a fair game (where the rules are standard for each player). In the atma system, the game "reward" (the atma) is unevenly distributed among the players. In other words, one person's effort will garner a reward while the same effort from a different player will not. Although a perfect RNG is "fair," the delegation of rewards based on a RNG is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araeya View Post
    Anyone who shows off something attained by luck or chance is an idiot, and most people who have good RNG luck aren't self-inflated and don't show off and are instead just happy/relieved they attained what they were working toward, so relying on that argument is also ridiculous. And it makes you look like someone who can't have a point of view without insulting people he/she doesn't know, which doesn't really help your case in the slightest.
    You are the person who called them idiots not me, so don't point fingers for name calling.

    That being said I have seen many people both on these forums and in game who were quick to show off their Atma's and Animus weapons.
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