Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Gormogon]

doing Level Capped content for rare drops at Lv 50 is not fun.

There's a lot to be enjoyed in this content if all you desire is new gear then it's obvious why you ain't finding the time to have fun.

I didn't rush the main scenario but so many people did only to complain about the lack of thereof.

[SendohJin]

There's a lot to be enjoyed in this content if all you desire is new gear then it's obvious why you ain't finding the time to have fun.

I didn't rush the main scenario but so many people did only to complain about the lack of thereof.

i didn't ask to rush, i only ask for progression over luck. if they want us to clear every FATE in every zone in the game with the Zenith, i'm okay with that. wouldn't exactly like it (because i still think level cap content shouldn't be part of a Lv 50 quest) but i would be okay with it.

low drop rates on top of low level FATEs, that's just terrible.

[Gormogon]

low drop rates on top of low level FATEs, that's just terrible.

It is but that's exactly what people that whine wanted. If your luck isn't godlike already then it's gonna take dedication regardless of being a casual or hardcore. Now if someone goes an entire year without seeing even 1 piece of atma then it would totally be bull but people are getting their atma and not even a month has passed by to warrant this drama.

[Lenarr]

It is but that's exactly what people that whine wanted. If your luck isn't godlike already then it's gonna take dedication regardless of being a casual or hardcore. Now if someone goes an entire year without seeing even 1 piece of atma then it would totally be bull but people are getting their atma and not even a month has passed by to warrant this drama.

I think it's reasonable to ask yourself if you want to spend literally countless days after days of your limited time and life doing something in this game that isn't remotely fun. I've been asking myself that today after playing at least 8 hours a day since ffxiv beta, and the answer for me is likely no. It's been a fun time since I got up at 3am to log on and start playing at early release when the servers first came up. I don't regret all the time I've put into ffxiv so far, since it's been enjoyable...even grinding up all my crafters and harvesters. I just logged onto my account since the first month of the game and canceled my monthly auto-pay. Maybe I'll change my mind in the next week.

[Gormogon]

I think it's reasonable to ask yourself if you want to spend literally countless days after days of your limited time and life doing something in this game that isn't remotely fun. I've been asking myself that today after playing at least 8 hours a day since ffxiv beta, and the answer for me is likely no. It's been a fun time since I got up at 3am to log on and start playing at early release when the servers first came up. I don't regret all the time I've put into ffxiv so far, since it's been enjoyable...even grinding up my crafters and harvesters.

We all have limited time. Doesn't stop the hardcore people from complaining about time investments.
We all have to grind for these things if we desire to have em. Doesn't stop you and others that wanna complain instead of doing them either, no offense.

It's just how it is. People's feedback have sided towards these extremes instead of desiring a more moderate and tolerable pace due to the most of pettiest of reasons, from my perspective.

I have horrible luck when it comes to RNG and I'm still gonna be farming these fates. Yes I'm not gonna priotize FATEs over dailies and other content either and I'll farm as much as I can during my free time regardless of how long it takes me to achieve these 12 atma pieces.

I don't know many players that wanted to grind low lvl fates endlessly. Long term goals, yes. Boring, mindless, repetition of old content, no. Not sure how this talking point got started that a lot of players want this type of thingy.

It's not about grinding low level fates it's about dedicating time and effort.

[Helena480]

This is a long post but I'm writing this with to be taken as real feedback for the game.

It's not about grinding low level fates it's about dedicating time and effort.

Wow? That's what time and effort is for you? Not going through new content or spending time devising ways to conquer the new bahamut 2nd coil or EX Leviathan? Marching from one fate to another for hours on end is not in any shape or form an achievement in this game. The whole emphasis of this quest is based on luck. Not on a raid or a boss fight or an instance. Just mindless, seemingly endless grinding of a fate(s) and I certainly didn’t ask for that.

I just spent 6 hours with my best friend farming for only ONE...ONE of the items.

I see a lot of players in favor of these changes saying a 6 hour grind on FATEs isn’t hard. However, the point that some of us are trying to make is that it’s not about the “effort” of the six hour grind, but the drop rate that forces players to wade through those six hours.

I’m on vacation and I will be going back to work soon. I live in Japan. For those of you who don’t know the work hours in Japan… don’t even bother.
In my opinion, the game has done a great job of accommodating a wide range of players (perhaps in favor of casual players). While the Atma/Animus weapons are meant to be a long term goal, it’s not realistic to grind FATEs for six hours or more just for one Atma piece.

It’s clear the game is still looking to strike a balance with short and long-term goals, but I dare say this is beyond the realm of realistic expectations for players. There is so much more content out there that time could be better spent on. EX Leviathan isn’t going to be on farm status on most servers any time soon, let alone getting lucky to get the mirror to upgrade the Leviathan weapons.

The other alternative is high allagan weapons, but we all know it’s going to be a long time before anyone is getting those. If you do, then this game has even more problems. There’s no denying that many players will be waiting for video guides for EX Leviathan, and without the high allagan weapons or the weapons from gerolt, the smart money is to focus on upgrading the zenith weapons.

I feel this needs to be addressed immediately. I even had a few people come in the party, and leave after the first fate. I spent the time and effort on my holiday to grind this item. I've gone through the 5th floor, I've completed all the things I've wanted to complete prior to patch 2.2. I've had a lot of fun with this game but this particular fate grinding needs be reconsidered.

Just to be clear, I'm not quoting you to pick on you. I just feel the backlash from players with such a “hardcore” grinding mentality is just a little much.

Note: I don't remember my relic weapon being an easy ordeal like some of you claim. I remember my server (and hearing that most servers) were taking a lot of time to complete Titan.

[Gormogon]

That's what time and effort is for you? Not going through new content

And that's where I stop reading. Raging and preaching at me wont fix your issues.

[Doo]

It is but that's exactly what people that whine wanted.

I don't know many players that wanted to grind low lvl fates endlessly. Long term goals, yes. Boring, mindless, repetition of old content, no. Not sure how this talking point got started that a lot of players want this type of thingy.