Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[TeaTimeBear]

To all these idiots defending S-E: TIME IS NOT THE ISSUE

I'm willing to put forth the work and grind it out. Such is the nature of MMO's. You have to spend time and effort in order to achieve your goals. I am prepared to do that.

Sometimes there is frustration and sacrifice along the way to reaching that goal. I can live with that too.

My problem is this: We are performing a stupid and menial task for the purpose of furthering our video game item collection. It is not fun. I would be embarrassed to say that I spent a weekend doing this. This game is asking us to sell our gamer soul for loot.

Contrast this to the process of learning Twintania.

It was time consuming. It was a grind. It was frustrating. But the process was challenging, it was social, it required teamwork, it made us better players, it made us better friends, and the reward at the end was just the cherry on top.

Compared to grinding in a game for a year or longer for one item.. Being a tad overly dramatic I'd say.

The relic is not just for showy vanity purposes, it has a use later on as it will be upgradable.

[bokchoykn]

Compared to grinding in a game for a year or longer for one item.. Being a tad overly dramatic I'd say.

The relic is not just for showy vanity purposes, it has a use later on as it will be upgradable.

The only people who find this acceptable are FFXI veterans who think it's okay to do something so mind-numbing and devoid of challenge because it gets them items. You people don't care about fun factor. You simply care about the prestige of possessing items, despite the mile of shit you had to hike through to get it. As someone who likes video games, this attitude disgusts me. Stop enabling S-E to churn out uninspired shit and trying to pass it as actual content.

I don't really care what the relic is used for. The process to get it is insulting to gamers.

[Starlord]

The only people who find this acceptable are FFXI veterans who think it's okay to do something so mind-numbing and devoid of challenge because it gets them items. As someone who likes video games, this attitude disgusts me. Stop enabling S-E to churn our uninspired shit and trying to pass it as actual content.

I don't really care what the relic is used for. The process to get it is insulting to gamers.

Be lucky we got long term content, you could have gotten the easy version that is "Relic Reborn". I rather have that then something that I can get done within a day or two for a "Relic/Zodiac".

Things this does right:

1) Gets people to the open world instead of 2 days of doing it and then you sit in your nest waiting for DF to pop lol
2) Stops this whole issue of " It's a Monday game (I have plenty of things to do personally)"

In terms of Open World content it's a step in the right direction as they are practically promoting you to go to the open world.

[bokchoykn]

Be lucky we got long term content, you could have gotten the easy version that is "Relic Reborn". I rather have that then something that I can get done within a day or two for a "Relic/Zodiac".

It's not about TIME. Why can't you realize this?

If you are going to wave a carrot in front of me and make me grind my ass off and play the game to get it, that's fine. That is the nature of MMO's and I'm prepared to do that. Just make me do something actually challenging, social, interactive, and fun. Because at the end of the day, I'm playing a video game and I want to have fun.

[Starlord]

It's not about TIME. Why can't you realize this?

If you are going to wave a carrot in front of me and make me grind my ass off and play the game to get it, that's fine. That is the nature of MMO's and I'm prepared to do that. Just make me do something actually challenging, social, interactive, and fun. Because at the end of the day, I'm playing a video game and I want to have fun.

Sure it is about time, that's all this forums complain about is time " This is a Monday game blah blah" " I log in on Monday, then I have to find something else to do" " No Content" XD

[bokchoykn]

Sure it is about time, that's all this forums complain about is time " This is a Monday game blah blah" " I log in on Monday, then I have to find something else to do" " No Content" XD

Well, that's certainly not my complaint. You responded to my post, did you not? Well, I don't speak for the others then.

To me, it's not about time. It's about the quality of the content.

FATEs are not fun. They are FILLER content. In fact, I feel dirty using the word "content" to describe them. Does anyone here actually disagree with me and can truthfully say that FATEs are fun and compelling content?

[Starlord]

Well, that's certainly not my complaint. You responded to my post, did you not? Well, I don't speak for the others then.

To me, it's not about time. It's about the quality of the content.

And to me that's exactly what I ( as in my opinion) got. "Quality Content" is subjective. You may think it's trash, when I think it's treasure " One man's trash is another man's treasure" :P

[LexSunfire]

The only people who find this acceptable are FFXI veterans who think it's okay to do something so mind-numbing and devoid of challenge because it gets them items. You people don't care about fun factor. You simply care about the prestige of possessing items, despite the mile of shit you had to hike through to get it. As someone who likes video games, this attitude disgusts me. Stop enabling S-E to churn our uninspired shit and trying to pass it as actual content.

I don't really care what the relic is used for. The process to get it is insulting to gamers.

your use of generalizations and broad categorizations is ridiculous. the people who are fine with the current atma quest go beyond ffxi veterans. don't make statements unsupported by facts- it disgusts me.

[bokchoykn]

your use of generalizations and broad categorizations is ridiculous. the people who are fine with the current atma quest go beyond ffxi veterans. don't make statements unsupported by facts- it disgusts me.

They're "fine" with it. You chose your words very carefully. Why didn't you say "they love it" or "they are having an absolute blast doing it"? Because you know it's not true.

Some people find it acceptable to do something completely mindless and boring if it grants them the satisfaction of an item that not many other people have. Final Fantasy XI was a game that was based on this very concept. What I said was not a generalization. It is a truthful observation on the nature of FFXI.

[Blazer]

They're "fine" with it. You chose your words very carefully. Why didn't you say "they love it" or "they are having an absolute blast doing it"? Because you know it's not true.

Some people find it acceptable to do something completely mindless and boring if it grants them the satisfaction of an item that not many other people have. Final Fantasy XI was a game that was based on this very concept. What I said was not a generalization. It is a truthful observation on the nature of FFXI.

I was as hard core as an FFXI vet as they come. The grinding is completely fine to me. What isn't okay is the god damn rng associated with these drops. It's complete bs.