Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Tano]

You forget, Asian companies like grindfests. Look at anything put out by NCSoft, absolute grindfest. It was only a matter of time before much grinding was required for something in this game.

that may be true, but at least when you make a Legendary in GW2 that is by far the best weapon in the game, and it will always be in every future update.
Relic Animus (so you have to do the 12 fates + 13500 Mythology, that is WAY more than a Legendary in GW2) is 15 levels under the best weapon in the game. It's not even close to the best weapon in the game. Not to mention that in the near future (well, it's already hard) nobody will do the basic Relic quest anymore.

[LalaRu]

FATES grinding is just the worst idea possible.

We hate FATE!! its a poor content!

I'm pretty sure whatever will be the method, will always be in forum a post like:

"<used method> is just the worst idea possible.

We hate <used method>!! its a poor content!"

[Ferth]

I could care less about the time involvement, I just think the devs need a wake up call on regards to FATE. We know it's half assed pseudo content that you guys think you can attach to real content to somehow not have to spend time making real content. You aren't fooling anyone by making events and quests and then tying them to the already shitty existing fates.

Fate in it's current form is not engaging enough for how much the devs rely on it for filler content. They really need to go back to the drawing board and make fate into something better than it is if they are going to keep cramming it down our throats with alternate content.

[Bizniztyme]

that may be true, but at least when you make a Legendary in GW2 that is by far the best weapon in the game, and it will always be in every future update.
Relic Animus (so you have to do the 12 fates + 13500 Mythology, that is WAY more than a Legendary in GW2) is 15 levels under the best weapon in the game. It's not even close to the best weapon in the game. Not to mention that in the near future (well, it's already hard) nobody will do the basic Relic quest anymore.

A grind is a grind, doesn't matter if it's for the best weapon or not. People ask for long term goals, not they got it. Please enjoy.

[Bizniztyme]

I could care less about the time involvement, I just think the devs need a wake up call on regards to FATE. We know it's half assed pseudo content that you guys think you can attach to real content to somehow not have to spend time making real content. You aren't fooling anyone by making events and quests and then tying them to the already shitty existing fates.

Fate in it's current form is not engaging enough for how much the devs rely on it for filler content. They really need to go back to the drawing board and make fate into something better than it is if they are going to keep cramming it down our throats with alternate content.

I don't remember grinding for anything in any game felt engaging, you're just going through the motions to get it over with.

[Cordelius]

I could care less about the time involvement, I just think the devs need a wake up call on regards to FATE. We know it's half assed pseudo content that you guys think you can attach to real content to somehow not have to spend time making real content. You aren't fooling anyone by making events and quests and then tying them to the already shitty existing fates.

Fate in it's current form is not engaging enough for how much the devs rely on it for filler content. They really need to go back to the drawing board and make fate into something better than it is if they are going to keep cramming it down our throats with alternate content.

How would you improve it? "Make it better" adds nothing.

[Tano]

A grind is a grind, doesn't matter if it's for the best weapon or not. People ask for long term goals, not they got it. Please enjoy.

Long goal for a good weapon. Between Relic Animus is sometimes weaker then Leviathan Extreme weapon and very close to Twintania weapon. It's pointless. Only a complete retard would bother.

It's just a bad (and probably random) gear progression design. Don't even try to blame the users. They were at rage when thay made Twintania weapons 5 levels above Relic+1, and asked to make Relic+1 harder instead of (relatively) nerfing it.

Not they made it harder AND they nerfed it to the point that is weaker compared to weapons easier to get.

[Yukiko]

hm...
I wonder...
Working 2 years on one job powering up spending love and so...
To try something else because its becoming boring or just for fun taking another job now...
Locked out of content because stupid DPS race on most cotent in FFXIV:ARR...
Spending again 1 year just to catch up...
... realize too late that now both jobs are outdated because the 3 month progress in new content with linear item powerups!

Note: Thats a future example, that can possible happen if SE follow their current path

I am interested how new players feel about?
Timesink was never a solution to any problem!

When I heard something about "time to progress" firtstly i thought great, giving the weapon away and gaining it back after time... but to have stupid grinding (once again), all motivation is gone...

[Bizniztyme]

Long goal for a good weapon. Between Relic Animus is sometimes weaker then Leviathan Extreme weapon and very close to Twintania weapon. It's pointless. Only a complete retard would bother.

Looks like you're calling everyone bitching about not getting these ATMAs retards, so nice of you.

[AlrikRouge]

Haven't started it yet, but from reading all the original threads on relic being too easy to get and doesn't take a long time, this sounds like it is not easy to get because it takes a long time.

And you don't even get the end goal, because it continues on later.

Be careful what you wish for....