Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Roris]

People are disappointed with this system by wide margin, why bother trying to convince them they're wrong about being upset????

Because apparently luck is a skill just look at me I have a million Atmas thus I'm a better person than you, and also telling the devs they're perfect and can do no wrong helps them more than actually providing feedback on how to improve regardless of how it's worded even if the minority loves disregarding everything as "whining", funnily enough they also hate being called a minority even though that's what they really are. There's a fix coming anyway thanks to all the feedback posted, they delayed the next step due to how badly executed the previous step was so at least they're admitting their mistakes and doing something about it, though we'll have to wait and see how, in the end this harmful minority loses just like always.

[Licus]

Because apparently luck is a skill just look at me I have a million Atmas thus I'm a better person than you, and also telling the devs they're perfect and can do no wrong helps them more than actually providing feedback on how to improve regardless of how it's worded even if the minority loves disregarding everything as "whining", funnily enough they also hate being called a minority even though that's what they really are. There's a fix coming anyway thanks to all the feedback posted, they delayed the next step due to how badly executed the previous step was so at least they're admitting their mistakes and doing something about it, though we'll have to wait and see how, in the end this harmful minority loses just like always.

People with different opinions are the harmful minority now? Get over yourself.

[ArcFinix]

You know someone's got a weak point when the only thing they can resort to doing is calling an opposing opinion a "troll". Something that does not benefit you right now but benefits you later still benefits you, unless of course you give up.

Doesn't matter if you have atma or not, it does not change how grindy the book portion is. I also strongly believe a lot of whining people stuck on Atma that are saying "oh the book portion is a lot more fun!" are just simply saying that out of frustration and would most likely have whined about that if the Atma portion never existed and we started at books.

I don't consider myself "lucky", having 14 Atmas myself with over 1400 FATEs completed. The difference between me and you though, is that I actually know what the book portion is like, and you don't. And I've found that farming the 13500 myth to even purchase the books is far more time consuming than farming 12 Atma.




You cannot farm myth quickly by yourself. Assuming perfect circumstances (6-8min bray first two boss runs, a good party is always available to grind with, the runs are perfect and nobody screws up, and minimal time is spent between runs), that's 270 brayflox speedruns at 41 hours assuming each run takes 9 minutes including time spent between runs. Throw in the time spent for the average person waiting on parties and time spent on errors or slow runs and that number goes significantly higher. And if you're a DPS that isn't a Black Mage/Bard? Too bad because most PFs only take those and myth runs take significantly longer without a Black Mage. I'm an i94 BLM capable of making runs take 6 minutes and I still have spent significantly more time farming the Myth than farming Atmas.

One can even argue that the most effective way to farm myth is an even more tedious boring grind because you repeat literally the same thing for hours, while the most effective way to farm Atma has more variety to it.

And don't think the RNG goes away when you get to books either, because you'll end up waiting on FATEs that can take up to 4+ hours to spawn. Some of those FATEs are activated only by talking to NPCs, meaning you have to camp the area they spawn at or you will never see them pop.

But who cares. I can have an opinion backed up by several valid points and be called a troll by whiny forum posters salty about not having Atmas.

Sorry i do not agree with you at all.

First off i have 2 atma done and currently working on my third which stuck at 3/12 for 2 weeks. So there is no difference between how we know about the book portion is like.
I have done 4 books (3 for sword 1 for shield on my PLD) and i find that alot more fun cause it is not all or nothing and it is progressive for everything u done.

I am ilvl 91 blm.. and 89 to 91 for all class (i have farmed T1 to T4 and obtain every single loot, i got all 3x9 primal HM before ex is out, i have all primal ex weapon before 2.2 hit and i have only monk belt caster glove and healer hat lacking from CT as of now).

i clear 24 atma + 3 more at about 2.2k / 3k on that achievement.

Valid point? you have no valid point here. and by calling me whiny forum poster u just did a direct verbal assault. edit edit edti

[AlmightyBob]

I only have 2 atma though. Myth increase ain't gonna do jack for me

[Licus]

I bet if people spent more time farming and less time complaining they would get more atmas.

Every Ilvl 100 weapon is difficult to acquire. If you don't want to raid or farm levi ex, both of which will take an astounding amount of time, you have to fight RNG for an astounding amount of time to get an animus weapon.

Relic will never be the best weapon in current content anyways. You can get an equivalent weapon if you down t8.

[waldo]

Redirect: atma quest is no fun for me, I hated it. I got it done, but hated it!
Loving the myth book portion of the quest line, much fun.

[Merle]

Loving the myth book portion of the quest line, much fun.

Same here, with one exception: "complete these 3 FATEs"

Damn FATEs -.-

[ArcFinix]

Redirect: atma quest is no fun for me, I hated it. I got it done, but hated it!
Loving the myth book portion of the quest line, much fun.

i myself have 2 atma done while working on third. Also i had finished 3 books and is loving it so far. However...the atma... is just crap!!!

[SionDurant]

Yeah I read a lot and have been told the BOOK PORTION of the relic quest is actually great fun, but NO ONE has told me Atma is fun and even some Hardcore players I speak to want it nerfed to oblivion.

I'd be happy if they nerfed atma to 1 stone requirement but added double the books TBH lol

[Zaels]

Because apparently luck is a skill just look at me I have a million Atmas thus I'm a better person than you, and also telling the devs they're perfect and can do no wrong helps them more than actually providing feedback on how to improve regardless of how it's worded even if the minority loves disregarding everything as "whining", funnily enough they also hate being called a minority even though that's what they really are. There's a fix coming anyway thanks to all the feedback posted, they delayed the next step due to how badly executed the previous step was so at least they're admitting their mistakes and doing something about it, though we'll have to wait and see how, in the end this harmful minority loses just like always.

Or more like there is no indication in any of my posts of trying to convince anyone they're wrong about being upset.

People sure love to equate "Y is worse than X" with "X is fine how it is".

lol logic

And no side can be reasonably called a minority without data/proof to back it up. For all we know, the majority of players may not even care either way. And the ones that don't care aren't going to go out of their way to post feedback saying so.