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    Quote Originally Posted by Xayoc View Post
    You forget, Asian companies like grindfests. Look at anything put out by NCSoft, absolute grindfest. It was only a matter of time before much grinding was required for something in this game.
    that may be true, but at least when you make a Legendary in GW2 that is by far the best weapon in the game, and it will always be in every future update.
    Relic Animus (so you have to do the 12 fates + 13500 Mythology, that is WAY more than a Legendary in GW2) is 15 levels under the best weapon in the game. It's not even close to the best weapon in the game. Not to mention that in the near future (well, it's already hard) nobody will do the basic Relic quest anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    that may be true, but at least when you make a Legendary in GW2 that is by far the best weapon in the game, and it will always be in every future update.
    Relic Animus (so you have to do the 12 fates + 13500 Mythology, that is WAY more than a Legendary in GW2) is 15 levels under the best weapon in the game. It's not even close to the best weapon in the game. Not to mention that in the near future (well, it's already hard) nobody will do the basic Relic quest anymore.
    A grind is a grind, doesn't matter if it's for the best weapon or not. People ask for long term goals, not they got it. Please enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    A grind is a grind, doesn't matter if it's for the best weapon or not. People ask for long term goals, not they got it. Please enjoy.
    Long goal for a good weapon. Between Relic Animus is sometimes weaker then Leviathan Extreme weapon and very close to Twintania weapon. It's pointless. Only a complete retard would bother.

    It's just a bad (and probably random) gear progression design. Don't even try to blame the users. They were at rage when thay made Twintania weapons 5 levels above Relic+1, and asked to make Relic+1 harder instead of (relatively) nerfing it.

    Not they made it harder AND they nerfed it to the point that is weaker compared to weapons easier to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    Long goal for a good weapon. Between Relic Animus is sometimes weaker then Leviathan Extreme weapon and very close to Twintania weapon. It's pointless. Only a complete retard would bother.
    Looks like you're calling everyone bitching about not getting these ATMAs retards, so nice of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    Looks like you're calling everyone bitching about not getting these ATMAs retards, so nice of you.
    Can't think of a reason different from vanity to get them. And I think that if you spend 225 hours for a vanity weapon you are a retard. My opinion man, but to be honest I believe it could even be diagnosed.

    Leviathan weapons are just as strong as Relic"+4", and probably High Allagan are even easier to get if you have a good group (and they are 15 levels above). Pretty sure that even pugging would require less than 225 hours of effort.

    Start doing it and look at next expansion to come just before you finish farming for it, introducing ilv 200 weapons. I could justify you if this quest was at least fun, but it isn't.
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    Last edited by Tano; 03-28-2014 at 01:37 AM.

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    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    Can't think of a reason different from vanity to get them. And I think that if you spend 225 hours for a vanity weapon you are a retard. My opinion man.

    Leviathan weapons are just as strong, and probably High Allagan are even easier to get if you have a good group. Pretty sure that even pugging would require less than 225 hours of effort.
    blah blah blah blah blah...You're the best and smartest, everyone else is a retard.... You the shizniz bro, yes you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    Can't think of a reason different from vanity to get them. And I think that if you spend 225 hours for a vanity weapon you are a retard. My opinion man, but to be honest I believe it could even be diagnosed.

    Leviathan weapons are just as strong as Relic"+4", and probably High Allagan are even easier to get if you have a good group (and they are 15 levels above). Pretty sure that even pugging would require less than 225 hours of effort.

    Start doing it and look at next expansion to come just before you finish farming for it, introducing ilv 200 weapons. I could justify you if this quest was at least fun, but it isn't.

    Shouldn't you be busy uninstalling the game instead of calling everyone retards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
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    I think you are misunderstanding something. The devs have said that they plan on incrementally improving the Zodiak weapons in the next few patches (including possible customizable stats). The reason to do the quest now is to prepare for future content. The other options are only faster if you have bad luck, and you are able to clear the content (they are much harder). The Zodiak weapons are an alternative to these to allow players of different skill levels the ability to see new content. They may not be as efficient, and will take a much longer time than people who were able to farm higher lvl content, but they have a chance of doing it.
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