Curious to know what the Japanese players (or players of other regions) are thinking about on this topic.
Curious to know what the Japanese players (or players of other regions) are thinking about on this topic.


Yeah, going to have to say you're not going to get much of a response in the section you made that. Nor do "petition" threads get any sort of special treatment. If anything they tend to be ignored or locked because people blow things way out of portion or go off topic.
I personally am on the side of the camp that thinks the drop drop rate is totally fine. A little rng never hurt anyone (sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't). I like the idea that you can't get everything done a couple of days after a patch. I'm here for the long haul so I expect the game to be have grinding options. I do have to say, that I think SE spoiled the players thinking that the relic upgrade process (based on 2.0 release) was always going to be easy. 1.0 players knew the frustration in trying upgrading their relics. I suspect as the game continues and more quests get added to the relic line that a smaller and smaller population will have all relics fully upgraded, and that I personally feel is fine.
/02 gil
Anyways, happy hunting folks!

Hello.....
Dear dev team.
New primal was fun thank you.
New hildibrand side quest was fun thank you.
New Coil was challange was fun thank you.
New storyline is cool.
Zodiac weapon quest first step. Atma....I don't mind grind 500 fate each zone. I don't mind if I has to beat each primal ex 100time. I don't mind if I has to camp odin/behemoth/something like that. I don't mind I has to clear T6-T9 20time. But I do mind with RNG like this.........
you join a party grind fate 2hr no drop. A X person join 15min and get drop. How do you feel serious tell me.
Ok there another content. But you know some people like to clear every single content before new patch come..
So far 0/12....
Thank you take you time for reading.
Make no mistake. I'm not you alliances. I'm here cause I just do what I felt is right thing to do.
Lol guys seriously.
Have u tried to join fates? Often i join when its at 13/15 minutes left and it's already finished

can't . do . any . more . fates . please . make . new . content . please .
Player


No need to shoot anyone o.o It's just a game, and the rest of the relic quest is quite good. I also like the rest of the patch, especially the one of the new trials, and the story leading up to it (won't say which for spoilers). So funny, and greatly refreshing.
See, I don't actually mind relics taking a long time to get. I don't even mind that maybe all my jobs aren't gonna have one and I should focus on which jobs I want to have them first. I just want trackable progression. If it -has- to include the FATE system that means giving us a set amount of FATEs to do per zone, specific FATEs to do, greatly increasing the drop chance for Atmas, or having drop chance increase each time it fails to drop.
Big lol to the poster above me. Naoki_Yoshida does indeed make many good points! He seems to be talking in circles though![]()



There's a lot of good points made in this thread but if you go back to the 1st page and read what Naoki Yoshida wrote you'll see he makes a good point. But then Naoki Yoshida wrote a good counter argument to that and got me, Naoki Yoshida, thinking. If SE took what Naoki Yoshida said and find a way to combine that with what Naoki Yoshida wants and add in some of what Naoki Yoshida just wrote we could have a really fun yet time consuming relic upgrade system.

So I finished the Atma grind, and here are my thoughts. It took me around 500 fates or so, and I think the amount of time I put into it was fine, but how I was spending that time was mind numbingly boring. The book upgrade portion of it, I'm totally fine with. They aren't too difficult, there's a good amount of different types of work you need to buy and complete the book. And I like the art in the books too, it just looks cool.
However... the part that I hated more than anything else is the complete lack of any upgrade you get when you actually finish your Atma. The iLvl goes up, but the stats don't change? All that work and you get 0 reward. That's the worst part. You spend all that time, and you don't' get anything for it. I should have just did Leviathan EX 100 times in the same time period and gotten an i100 weapon that way.
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