I hate the idea of Echo Buff. It should be part of some easy server not whole game.

[Djeserit]

This may come as a shock to you, but some people like to actually challenge themselves to be better than others. It's called being competitive. Not everyone can be as accepting of mediocrity as you are.

"Who cares anyway right?"... is usually always spoken by the guy at the bottom.

If you wanted to be competitive, you would have downed T5 about 4-5 months ago, and the extreme primals the first week of 2.1

The time for competition on 2.0/2.1 content has long since past, just let it go.

So because I joined a month ago, I'm automatically screwed out of enjoying content the way it was originally intended to be played? I don't care about gear, or status, or any of that crap, yet just because I wasn't here day 1, I'm not allowed to enjoy a challenging experience? I know it might be hard for you to see past your own experiences, but not everyone has been playing since 1.0's beta. Not every newbie is inept at playing the game. So just because I'm 'late' to the party, my enjoyment of the game is invalid? And I'M the selfish one for wanting content to stay as it is? Unbelievable.

There are ways to make the game more challenging for yourself. Go in with the bare minimum ilevel required for entry, turn off all echo buffs you may receive, hell do it naked if you want.

If you want a challenging experience, then be creative and give yourself a challenge.

As the person below you said: there are plenty of people who think the same way as you. Find them, group with them, have your cake and let everyone else have theirs too.

[Onyxleo]

If you wanted to be competitive, you would have downed T5 about 4-5 months ago, and the extreme primals the first week of 2.1

The time for competition on 2.0/2.1 content has long since past, just let it go.

So because I joined a month ago, I'm automatically screwed out of enjoying content the way it was originally intended to be played? I don't care about gear, or status, or any of that crap, yet just because I wasn't here day 1, I'm not allowed to enjoy a challenging experience? I know it might be hard for you to see past your own experiences, but not everyone has been playing since 1.0's beta. Not every newbie is inept at playing the game. So just because I'm 'late' to the party, my enjoyment of the game is invalid? And I'M the selfish one for wanting content to stay as it is? Unbelievable.



All of this "Give yourself" nonsense, as if having 7 other party members abusing the echo with 30% buffs isn't going to make a difference to my experience? And are you seriously implying that if I strolled into an extreme fight as a naked Dragoon, I wouldn't instantly get removed for trolling? That's an absolutely ridiculous 'solution' that doesn't even address my issue with this system. Come on, be real here.

[Oscillate_Wildly]

So because I joined a month ago, I'm automatically screwed out of enjoying content the way it was originally intended to be played? I don't care about gear, or status, or any of that crap, yet just because I wasn't here day 1, I'm not allowed to enjoy a challenging experience? I know it might be hard for you to see past your own experiences, but not everyone has been playing since 1.0's beta. Not every newbie is inept at playing the game. So just because I'm 'late' to the party, my enjoyment of the game is invalid? And I'M the selfish one for wanting content to stay as it is? Unbelievable.

You can turn the buff off. There you go. There's your challenge. The Echo isn't mandatory, and if you cant put forth the effort to find your own party where everyone shares your ideals, a static even, then I honestly can't say you're trying your best.There are people out there like you, you can find them and you can challenge whatever the hell you want at your own difficulty. Whatever that means to you. You can even go in with full DL for the full experience.

Also if you really did join a month ago, the content you've done isn't the same level of difficulty or challenge as it once was.

Quite a bit has been nerfed to hell and back. I don't know how long ago the Moogle Mog fight was but has since been nerfed since 2.1
Someone just joining during 2.2 wouldn't fucking know the difference.