I hate the idea of Echo Buff. It should be part of some easy server not whole game.

[Emtron]

My thoughts exactly. If Yoshi wants to follow WoW model so much as he stated, then there should be separate achievements for defeating a raid with and without echo, so both groups of players can feel like they accomplished something.

Love your quote so topical as well.

[Gormogon]

Claims to be hardcore. Doesn't do the content with minimal gear requirements. Yeah you ain't fooling me.

[BlueMage]

Claims to be hardcore. Doesn't do the content with minimal gear requirements. Yeah you ain't fooling me.

The definitions in dumb forum politics generally come down to "casual = bad player/idiot" and "hardcore/elitist = scumbag no-lifer".

Kind of like how twisted words like "liberal" and "conservative" have become in IRL politics.

[Gormogon]

What is ironic is a lot of people complaining about nerfs are the same people who use turn 2 enrage to bypass all of ADSs mechanics and raged on the forums when it got patched for a couple days.

Cheesing content is truly hardcore.

[Yumi_umi]

I play as a gimped whm and made a thread, sure i may have a seemingly harder time but imo it makes the game more challenging in a way and it allows me to cheese content.
So imo hardcore ppl are ppl who don't care about nerfs and just play the game the way they want even if it is looked down on, they are hardcore so they'll make it work out and possibly find new ways for others to be enlightened.
Enrage t2 was found because a person thought of it and shared it.
Now it's a widely known useful tactic.