Why mark targets?

[Jyoeru]

Macroing mark with tomahawk/shield lob is a bad idea. Say you want to mark something else mid fight, you may have just wasted 120 tp. Might need that tp in long fights or to start the next set of adds quicker.

Honestly, most DPS should be capable of watching which mob you attacked first and burn it down first then go for lowest health. Meanwhile I'm securing hate on the other adds so said DPS can go all out on their next targets. I don't lose hate, one mob dies so the healer can throw out more DPS instead of spamming heals on me and the DPS can maximize their damage in any way they wish.

You shouldn't have to mark something else mid-fight, and if you need to, then do a manual mark. Not a big deal. The tomahawk/shield mark macro is really only for the first pull. ALSO: If your GCD is activated, you can press the macro button, mark the target only, and not use the unnecessary ability. For example, a group spawns, run to them, target the mob you want focused, cast overpower, and during that 2.5sec GCD, hit your tomahawk/mark macro. Win. There are solutions to a lot of problems

[BazFamrit]

You shouldn't have to mark something else mid-fight, and if you need to, then do a manual mark. Not a big deal. The tomahawk/shield mark macro is really only for the first pull. ALSO: If your GCD is activated, you can press the macro button, mark the target only, and not use the unnecessary ability. For example, a group spawns, run to them, target the mob you want focused, cast overpower, and during that 2.5sec GCD, hit your tomahawk/mark macro. Win. There are solutions to a lot of problems

Agreed. But marking is also a fix for the problem of bad DPS. Sometimes you have to mark mid fight for spawns if its a bomb for instance. The DPS should know to take it out first but sometimes they need a bit of guidance.

Like I said, DPS should be paying attention to which mob was attacked first and which has lowest HP and kill in that order. Its just common sense. So I refrain from marking unless its necessary.

[Jyoeru]

Agreed. But marking is also a fix for the problem of bad DPS. Sometimes you have to mark mid fight for spawns if its a bomb for instance. The DPS should know to take it out first but sometimes they need a bit of guidance.

Like I said, DPS should be paying attention to which mob was attacked first and which has lowest HP and kill in that order. Its just common sense. So I refrain from marking unless its necessary.

Perfect world scenario agreement between both of us. World not perfect. Macro automates the process so it causes you no real grief and basically puts all of the burden on the DPS. "I marked target, why were you attacking cat?" Good DPS will have target/target macros and will do things like target you and then get their target from your focus and so on. Most DPS not good. Tanks are better at their job when they are using the tools set out before them. I'd rather us have a good run because I took the extra steps to cover DPS derping than to lay back with nothing to do because everything ran perfectly. That's boring in my opinion

[AliceVirgin]

Agreed. But marking is also a fix for the problem of bad DPS. Sometimes you have to mark mid fight for spawns if its a bomb for instance. The DPS should know to take it out first but sometimes they need a bit of guidance.

Like I said, DPS should be paying attention to which mob was attacked first and which has lowest HP and kill in that order. Its just common sense. So I refrain from marking unless its necessary.

If a DPS is bad I just have them booted problem fixed you fail at your simple task then why should I waste my time with you. Its don't suck and waste my time and if people don't want to boot the bad DPS I just ask them to boot me ill get a new group almost instantly not going to bother dealing with people who cant do there jobs

[Zacban]

If a DPS is bad I just have them booted problem fixed you fail at your simple task then why should I waste my time with you. Its don't suck and waste my time and if people don't want to boot the bad DPS I just ask them to boot me ill get a new group almost instantly not going to bother dealing with people who cant do there jobs

Look out people. We got a badass over here.

Seriously. If I was grouped with you I would just make you leave on your own, so you would receive your 30 minute debuff. How's that for wasting time?. You're playing an online game with 600.000 subscribers in all age ranges. You can't seriously be expecting only to group with pros. And what you're propbaly failing to grasp is that your stuck-up opinion is making 3-7 other people waste their time, making you the a-hole your complaining about.

As for marking. focusing one target at a time, and let the other mobs be victims on cleaving damage puts less strain on your healer. Less strain on your healers means fewer mana breaks. You can't SR categorize everything

[AliceVirgin]

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Lol Tanks and Healers get called Bad all the time and booted from the group because people cant clear the content with them if they suck.. Yet we are not allowed to boot out bad DPS that will slow down the game exp of those same Tanks and Healers once they master there craft..
How can it be there is 1 set of rules for tanks and healers and another for DPS if a Tank or Healer sucks its ok to belittle them and kick them yet when you say the same about a DPS people act like the world is ending

[Zacban]

Lol Tanks and Healers get called Bad all the time and booted from the group because people cant clear the content with them if they suck.. Yet we are not allowed to boot out bad DPS that will slow down the game exp of those same Tanks and Healers once they master there craft..
How can it be there is 1 set of rules for tanks and healers and another for DPS if a Tank or Healer sucks its ok to belittle them and kick them yet when you say the same about a DPS people act like the world is ending

Sure.. if they're hindering your progress in the dungeon by all means kick them. But kicking them just because they don't live up to your standards is lame. Especially in low level roulette.

[AliceVirgin]

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Well if they are not meeting my standards isn't it are they not in turn hindering my progress if they are making it slow they are hindering my progress I get x amount of hours to play a day mainly 2 at most. I travel a lot for work so I don't get to play much why should I waste it with slow dps when those same DPS kicked me when I was leaening my Job?

[Niamh_Felixis]

Lol Tanks and Healers get called Bad all the time and booted from the group because people cant clear the content with them if they suck.. Yet we are not allowed to boot out bad DPS that will slow down the game exp of those same Tanks and Healers once they master there craft..

Most of the time it's easier to deal with a bad dps. If they keep ignoring the marking or running off pulling stuff, tell the healer to let them die. It usually only takes that once for them to stop being dumb. Bad DPS issues in dungeons usually have quick fixes. A tank or healer who can't run properly is a major issue because they usually don't understand their class then.
I still don't think kicking people is a good idea. If possible, try to help them. It's only the most belligerent of players who will screw things up for people and still not listen to advice.

[AliceVirgin]

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What im reading is its ok to keep a Bad DPS doing a horrid job dealing dmg because they can be carried threw the instant why should Tanks ever put up with it. they suck at DPS they should be booted if a Tank cant hold hate or a healer cant heal we all know its an auto boot because like you said we cant move forward im just holding the dps to the same standards they hold us...