Why mark targets?

[Viridiana]

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1) That's cool, but the OP already said he only meant for this to apply when incoming damage is not a concern.

2) Doesn't apply to BRD, so you agree BRD should always multi-dot? And that melee should multi-dot if the mobs are close together?

3) Those monsters are often still part of a pack. Kill them, then spread dots over the rest of the pack. BTW, the Succubi in AK should never even touch you. . .

[Jyoeru]

How hard is it to macro a marking icon to your pulling ability like tomahawk? Not very hard. The least you could do is make that macro so that people know which target you are focused on. If you're a good tank, that's a good practice, then you should be rotating your enmity abilities through the rest of the pull to keep it going on you. Then you should be focusing on the target DPS is attacking next, which is usually the mob with the next lowest health pool, which you can control by attacking your desired 2nd target after you've secured significant enmity on your primary target.

You spent 100x more time making a post about anti-marking when you could have made that macro and solved the problem. It's not like people in your DF groups are going to come here and read your post and have a new view of the issue at hand. You're the "leader" of the group. I think tanks should act like it.

[Viridiana]

How hard is it to macro a marking icon to your pulling ability like tomahawk? Not very hard. The least you could do is make that macro so that people know which target you are focused on.

I actually really dislike macros like this. All it takes is to accidentally double-tap and it's gone, or if you lose aggro and provoke+shield lob a secondary target, suddenly that one's #1, etc.

[Jyoeru]

I actually really dislike macros like this. All it takes is to accidentally double-tap and it's gone, or if you lose aggro and provoke+shield lob a secondary target, suddenly that one's #1, etc.

I double tap all the time. GCD allows me to tap once more without wasting usage on the ability, yet reestablishing the marking icon. Just takes practice.

I can't speak for PLD. Maybe it's not as great for you guys. And it really doesn't matter if you switch that 1 mid-fight. I have accidentally done that, too, and people don't usually switch their focus target. Even if they do, it's never proven to be the end of the world. All that matters is what people are attacking the first 15 seconds of the fight, to be honest.

(Not including adds. People need to know when to attack adds, so that doesn't really apply to this point in the discussion).

[Espon]

My reason for marking isn't about threat since people rarely pull off me. It's more so to reduce damage I'm taking since less enemies means less things hitting me. I prefer if people AoEing or multi-DoTing though, but any single target attacks should be focused on the lowest numbered target. Plus, if I'm taking less damage, it means the healer spend more time DPSing.

[Artemiz]

I think the OP has it the wrong way round, as a BLM marking targets increases my DPS, no doubt about it. It doesn't make a massive difference but it's still information I can use when judging which targets to re-aply DoT's too and sometimes which one I should use for my single target stance flip spells or thundercloud/firestarter procs. Then consider as a BLM I have a cast time so if a mob is at 5% health there is no point throwing a spell at it if the other DPS is a good single target job, it will be dead before my spell finishes and I'll stand there like a nugget interrupting myself. If I know what the next target for the tank is (I can't read minds and different tanks do things differently) then I could be doing something constructive to the next focus target instead.

A party that's all on the same page and attacks mobs in an intelligent and timely fashion will always run better than one that allows chaos to decend on it, marking makes the former far more likely so why not do it?

[Hekmatyar-Koko]

It's actually better for a melee to focus one target. We have to worry about positioning for our rotations and combos, having to then cycle through othet targets and move is just a hassle and lowers DPS. Also, focusing on a single target is more TP efficient.

People can come in with their fancy stats, etc, but this game isnt about flat damage.

Also, the quicker a mob dies, the less damage it does, the easier the healers job is, dont be an inconsiderate tank. You have just as equal, if not more important role in managing your health.

[Rak_Boy]

because people do not know how to read these

I was looking for someone to explain toe me these numbers... what does they actually means

[Rak_Boy]

and what does this have to do ?
is it a sequence of targets , and for others not to mark?

[Traison]

Because there are so many insane tanks nowadays that say "If you don't attack my target, I am not going to even attempt to hold agro."