Why mark targets?

[Viridiana]

Second, you are in fact fundamentally wrong about the DPS of dots and AoEs. For melee, at least. For both monk and dragoon one of our DoTs is in the tail end of a combo, DoTs also take far too long to tick down completely, more than the encounter should last after the application of the first comboless one so there would be a long stretch of time where we should use our AoE attacks.

It takes Demolish 9 seconds, maximum, to beat out Snap Punch. IOW, if the target will live more than the next 9 seconds, Demolish > Snap Punch in all ways. For Touch of Death, it takes a bit longer, more like 18 seconds. But, then, all MNKs know that Touch of Death is one of the first things you drop anyway.

For BRD, multi-dotting is the best thing you can do for damage. It takes Venomous Bite 6 seconds and Windbite 9 seconds to match/outpace Heavy Shot, respectively. If you have a target up that doesn't have a dot on it yet, the only thing you should be considering is enmity and time to live (unless you're massively low on TP).

I don't know DRG very well, so I'll leave it to someone else to decide what's worth it there.

[Tzain]

DOT rules are the same as all other actions.

If DPS pulls agro off the tank, it's their own fault. Your actions directly contributed and caused you to take agro. If the tank put up a big honking number on the top of the mob saying "HIT ME FIRST" and you did something other than attacking that target then that's on you.

Hopefully the tank likes you enough to pull it back and the healer likes you enough to help you survive, but make no mistake, that's your own damn fault.

[Aloysous]

I do my best to mark everything. It just makes things more organized. I like things organized and its not hard to do.

[bardaboo]

IMO if it takes 10 secs to apply dots. X3 30 seconds... could focus blast 2 of those mobs down by that point. On weaker enemies it's just annoying. Considering it takes longer to get full potency from dots.

[Langureion]

Looks like OP is the only one that's confused. (shurg)
OP has also edited the first post which is already different from the original post.
And the title should be something like "how to max dps when marking".....which doesn't really concern marking....
And melee/blm will never max their dps if they are dodging moves tho. lol
So point of the thread?

/popcorn

[Bixby]

What's the most effective way to get DPS to play their role to fit this style?

Passive-aggressive posts about target-marking on the tank forums. I mean. That's the first thing I look for when I'm researching optimizing my MNK DPS.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

I think for Arcanist, I definitely prefer laying DoTs across multiple enemies rather than DoT one enemy, then cast a happy 80 unaspected damage attack until it's time to refresh.

For Bard, I'll Windbite and Venomous Shot a second target, but mostly for Bloodletter proc against the first. I will rarely touch a third target with DoTs unless in one of the tank scenarios where I may overtake hate as the result of blasting a target. One exception is in Crystal Tower, between two Vassagos with a Napalm or Balloon add. There's a good chance Vassagos will keep DoTs while the napalm or balloon is the recipient of everything else.

But in most scenarios, am still a fan of mitigating damage/reducing stress on the healer where the downtime may shift toward healer MP if I take full advantage of DoTs and their durations.

[MrDiezel]

For Bard, I'll Windbite and Venomous Shot a second target, but mostly for Bloodletter proc against the first.

Unrelated to this post, im a fresh Bard. If you apply Windbite and Venomous Shot to multiple targets, does each application help proc the Bloodletter refresh?? Cuz if so.... thats kinda amazing

[C-croft]

Unrelated to this post, im a fresh Bard. If you apply Windbite and Venomous Shot to multiple targets, does each application help proc the Bloodletter refresh?? Cuz if so.... thats kinda amazing

i believe so, couple with straight shot and MNK x-class for maximum effect.

[zakalw3]

Marking simply equals: put your auto attacks/instant damage here, in this order.

Anyone with experience will know to throw dots around. Most post end game groups I find will have players who know who to work inside and around the marks efficiently.

It just makes things tidy.