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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    except they do... the whole point of looking for inprogress is to save time... a tank waiting 20seconds then dropping isnt saving time. and defeats teh whole purpose of doing an inprogress run.
    But I can tell you from first hand experience, this is what many do. Perhaps they went for a drink, perhaps they were browsing netflix they and you are still jerking around 23 other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamds1 View Post
    Im pretty sure repeatedly spamming withdraw until you get what you want isn't working as intended. Just joing the inprogress only queue and you won't be inconveniencing anyone. You've already stated you don't have any intention of joining a new start so why would you join a new start queue?
    Because there's no way to join in-progress only, just a flag that puts you in both fresh and in-progress queues. If there was an "in-progress only" queue all the tanks would just use that all the time and nobody would get into dungeons ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    and you seem to not understand is thats not true.

    thats not true.... if you look at the dutyfinder 23/24 people are built together... you are all in the same queue waitinig for the 24th person if i withdraw. the duty finder goes back to 5/6 6/6 12/12 the same 23 people are in the same queue together.
    and when the status goes to 0/6 /0/6 2/12 how do you explain that? Where did the 23 other people go?
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikoteAstra View Post
    And here is the thing, i cant do all the things you mention when i queue ! All 10 sec i get the massage that i can go in the duty dn but then it begins with withdraw ! Let me see you how you craft or farm matirials or do questing ! And as DPS if you miss the to enter you wait again from 45min to 90-120 min depends on the dn !

    And all this because some idiots !!!
    I completely agree with you. That's why I'm FOR a "3 strikes and you're out for a bit" penalty.

    Is the Join in Progress option being abused? Absolutely.

    Should the person be banned for using the feature? No. That's passion overriding everyone's reason right now. I get that it frustrates you. I know if I was in your position, it would piss me off too. But to ban someone because a feature in a game is implemented and people are using it to benefit them is harsh. Should they be punished for causing simple and annoying problems? Yes. But not a ban. I completely disagree with that stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calyanare View Post
    Because there's no way to join in-progress only, just a flag that puts you in both fresh and in-progress queues. If there was an "in-progress only" queue all the tanks would just use that all the time and nobody would get into dungeons ever.
    That doesn't make sense, Tanks have to go into a new party in order to have a "in progress party" later on(ex rage quit, DC etc)... lol.

    That's like saying you want the middle piece of the bread.... but you have to make the whole bread to have a middle piece.


    If they separate it, no one would use the progress function because it would be slow as hell.
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

  6. #66
    Player flamds1's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calyanare View Post
    Because there's no way to join in-progress only, just a flag that puts you in both fresh and in-progress queues. If there was an "in-progress only" queue all the tanks would just use that all the time and nobody would get into dungeons ever.
    Including the tanks because there would be no inprogress parties to join.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrenianKandos View Post
    I completely agree with you. That's why I'm FOR a "3 strikes and you're out for a bit" penalty.

    Is the Join in Progress option being abused? Absolutely.

    Should the person be banned for using the feature? No. That's passion overriding everyone's reason right now. I get that it frustrates you. I know if I was in your position, it would piss me off too. But to ban someone because a feature in a game is implemented and people are using it to benefit them is harsh. Should they be punished for causing simple and annoying problems? Yes. But not a ban. I completely disagree with that stance.
    I agree with you!

    But i do wonder if this 30min penalty will be enough! We have it now for leaving a dn in progress, yet in CT once people get the loot they wanted they are simply gone!

    Im for harder penaltys so that people once and for all get it! Maybe 12h penalty !
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrenianKandos View Post
    But to ban someone because a feature in a game is implemented and people are using it to benefit them is harsh.
    That checkbox is there to say 'I am open to doing in progress runs also' There is no option to do them only.

    Would you apply the same logic to a premade kicking a PUG tank when tank gear drops? The kick feature is in game and people are using it to benefit themselves. The difference is, we can report them, we cannot report the anonymous tank that drops and inconveniences others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calyanare View Post
    Because there's no way to join in-progress only, just a flag that puts you in both fresh and in-progress queues. If there was an "in-progress only" queue all the tanks would just use that all the time and nobody would get into dungeons ever.
    Well, if they weren't getting into any dungeons ever, they would move over to the other queue, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    its exactly the way its intneded. I want to join an inprogress run. So i click the inprogress option. and then i queue and wait for a queue pop for an inprogress run. How is that not how its intended to be used.
    You're confusing a possible use with an intended use. Is it possible to tick the in-progress box and then be a jerk and continually withdraw until you actually get a run that's in progress? Yes. Did they add this function to the game just so you could do this? No. The intended purpose of the "join in progress" feature is to help out groups who have someone disconnect or leave (or get kicked, now) during a dungeon, so that they don't all have to leave and start over, not to save you time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    its exactly the way its intneded. I want to join an inprogress run. So i click the inprogress option. and then i queue and wait for a queue pop for an inprogress run. How is that not how its intended to be used.
    Oh, wait, I got it all wrong, you checked the option to only queue up for in progress runs?

    That option does not exist, therefore doing in progress runs only is not intended.

    That option is to say you are open to join in progress runs also, not only.
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