SE need be serious to review the situation for melee DPS

[neoreturn]

Not matter how much DPS improve on melee, a dead melee = nothing.
please make some mechanics to screw up ranged DPS. That s call a balance.
I normal give an open slot for melee DPS in pt finder for any primary farm party. Last night I found I can't. Melee didnt improve group DPS by 200% but they will bring 200% trouble for the group easily.

[Mardel]

YA! I should bring more melee dps to my parties. If I bring 2 the group DPS will go up 400% but also bring 400% more trouble if they are bad!

[Shakarlyn]

Not matter how much DPS improve on melee, a dead melee = nothing.
please make some mechanics to screw up ranged DPS. That s call a balance.
I normal give an open slot for melee DPS in pt finder for any primary farm party. Last night I found I can't. Melee didnt improve group DPS by 200% but they will bring 200% trouble for the group easily.

Man, maybe I need to read up on NA tactics, because on JP servers, melee DPS is very much welcomed. I just don't get all this hate for melee DPS when it works here. I'm assuming you're talking about Extreme primals, yes?

[odie]

make mobs and bosses that could be completely resistant to magic. maybe killable by certain types of attacks only. a boss that can only be killed by blunt force (MNK) and one from piercing attacks (DRG). This would make it so you would HAVE to bring them with you.

[odie]

Man, maybe I need to read up on NA tactics, because on JP servers, melee DPS is very much welcomed. I just don't get all this hate for melee DPS when it works here. I'm assuming you're talking about Extreme primals, yes?

i see it in lamia, melee is constantly shunned and replaced by Bards or Blackmages and Summoners. i have to do quite a bit of convincing to the party leader sometimes to get my MNK to join them. and not just on EX primals either.

[Shakarlyn]

i see it in lamia, melee is constantly shunned and replaced by Bards or Blackmages and Summoners. i have to do quite a bit of convincing to the party leader sometimes to get my MNK to join them. and not just on EX primals either.

Wow, I'm sorry. I do not experience that. Whenever I help someone on HMs I will either take my SMN or MNK. No one ever complains when I take my MNK. Ever. They let me pick and we go with it, never a complaint. I'm not at the stage where I can help people farm Extremes yet, but I'm working on that.

[Battlewrench]

Maybe its cause of everyone wanting content to be face rolled that they aren't willing to spend time helping the melee learn the fights. Melee might be dying more cause the chances of them getting a group is slim. The community is to blame. I'm not saying there are some bad players out there but that goes for any job, take a risk and help improve the community.

[odie]

Wow, I'm sorry. I do not experience that. Whenever I help someone on HMs I will either take my SMN or MNK. No one ever complains when I take my MNK. Ever. They let me pick and we go with it, never a complaint. I'm not at the stage where I can help people farm Extremes yet, but I'm working on that.

i understand the "bad melee" view...i really do. I went forever before someone told me that my attacks did better depending on where on the mob i was positioned. I also practiced on the dummy's in coerthas and learned which combos were best. Unloading up to 3 DoTs and then laying on the damage. My DPS increase was immediately noticeable when i put this into work in an actual instance. So those who didnt learn how to melee yet are really holding back quite a bit of power. Especially the ones that can't dodge and stay alive.

[Deedsie]

I find this amusing...particularly since there are people that complain about content being made easier.

[Shakarlyn]

Maybe its cause of everyone wanting content to be face rolled that they aren't willing to spend time helping the melee learn the fights. Melee might be dying more cause the chances of them getting a group is slim. The community is to blame. I'm not saying there are some bad players out there but that goes for any job, take a risk and help improve the community.

As I read these forums and other places more and more, I just see sooo many difference between NA and JP. I've made a character on an NA server and slowly levelling it up so I can experience what it's like. I guess I want to know why the differences are so big.

There are fights that even JP prefer only casters, but things like Garuda Extreme, they *want* melee. DRG is the usual preference.