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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Tanks Who Constantly Queue and Then Withdraw Trying to Get in Progress Instances

    They really need to start banning them. I main a PLD and it sickens me when this crap happens if I'm on another job. It's incredibly rude and needs to be punished.

    My suggestion is this: Allow two withdraws from queue. On the third strike, the person withdrawing takes a 30 minute penalty. It then also flags the system that said person has received the withdrawing penalty. Once that person receives 3 flags, they are then banned for a shortish period of time (say 3 days). Then it will progressively get longer.

    Keep in mind, I'm talking about withdrawing from the queue, not once you've entered a dungeon (which there's already a penalty for). If you've ever had it happen where your queue pops over and over for short periods, it's a Tank constantly queuing and withdrawing trying to get an in-progress dungeon so they can more quickly get their Myth tokens.
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    3 days ban for checking the "Join in progress" box, and wanting to actually join a group in progress?
    Are you for real?
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    3 days ban for checking the "Join in progress" box, and wanting to actually join a group in progress?
    Are you for real?
    That's a pretty lame flaw of the system. "Join in progress" should never interfere with the queues of players who's not even in a dungeon.
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    That's a pretty lame flaw of the system. "Join in progress" should never interfere with the queues of players who's not even in a dungeon.
    which is why they should be separate.

    Really, there needs to be 3 choices: The normal DF queue, the join any queue, and the in progress only queue.
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    That's a pretty lame flaw of the system. "Join in progress" should never interfere with the queues of players who's not even in a dungeon.
    It doesn't though. It just makes you think you're going to get in earlier but nope, you're not.

    Also I propose week long bans for that poor, last dps that always seems to be afk right til the last second of a loooong q. How dare they interfere with my insta queues?!? :P
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    Last edited by Amyas; 01-15-2014 at 12:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    It doesn't though. It just makes you think you're going to get in earlier but nope, you're not.
    exactly this is what people dont understand is that when a tank withdraws from the queue pop its not extending their time. They are infact waiting the same amount of time as if that tank never queued to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    3 days ban for checking the "Join in progress" box, and wanting to actually join a group in progress?
    Are you for real?
    It hinders people trying to get into content (thus proving it's a bad design) simply because someone wants to hop into a raid, get gear and get out of said raid if it drops and they get or it doesn't drop.

    Is that honestly the point? They don't want to "simply join a group in progress", they want to join in only at specific points that benefits them the most and live right after. 3 day is pretty strict, but they should put at last a 5 minute cool down on people "fishing" which will let people who queue normally more likely to get in. They're starting to do this on primals now when there's NO reason beyond queue times to join a primal fight in progress as people dropping out are for a reason,
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 01-14-2014 at 11:49 PM.

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    Altani Dotharl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    3 days ban for checking the "Join in progress" box, and wanting to actually join a group in progress?
    Are you for real?
    that or a punch right in the you-know-what(s) :|

    But seriously, I believe you should only be able to check for an in progress run 5 times every half an hour (the timer starts once you begin the search) and if you decline all 5 of your given queues, you get the deserter penalty. It is really ridiculous sometimes.

    But I also believe it really only needs to be limited to CT at the moment. Or maybe they could just remove the raid progress from CT's queue window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    3 days ban for checking the "Join in progress" box, and wanting to actually join a group in progress?
    Are you for real?
    You might consider actually reading what people write before responding.

    I only suggested bans for REPEAT OFFENDERS. People who have received the suggested withdrawl penalty on three separate occasions. Just like with criminals on their third strike... you save the more severe penalties (bans) for the repeat offenders.
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    Last edited by Kaedan; 01-15-2014 at 01:48 AM.

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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    You might consider actually reading what people write before responding.

    I only suggested bans for REPEAT OFFENDERS. People who have received the suggested withdrawl penalty on three separate occasions. Just like with criminals on their third strike... you save the more severe penalties (bans) for the repeat offenders.
    I've read it countless times to be sure I wasn't misreading.
    Withdrawing is not an "offending action". SE will never ban someone because they don't want to kill the Bone Dragon with you.

    Get over it. Make a premade if it bothers you that much.
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