Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

[Xenobius]

Player A (<100ms ping) : "Why the f**k you just stand there?!" (On his screen)
Player B (>200ms ping) : "I didn't!!! I swear to god, I'm like miles away from Plumes!!!"

Kinda this.
I played through WoW's raid content during TBC, WoTLK and early Cataclysm. I've seen interesting fights, I've seen difficult fights, but with or without DBM/BigWigs, learning and mastering the fight did not end on memorizing the AoE patterns. In FFXIV, this is the case. We've had trouble with Titan HM right up to the point where our tank started to recite the phase pattern in voice chat for players unfamiliar with it - and people stopped dying to stuff IMMEDIATELY. Make an add-on that will flash your screen and announce the next mechanic - and a 5-year old can beat anything in this game. This wasn't the case with WoW, where add-ons or no add-ons, you still had a lot to learn. In FFXIV the ultimate recipe for victory is:

a) Have low ping and no packet loss ( = pay for VPN for many).
b) Memorize the pattern.
c) Pass the gear check.

That's it.
Which is kinda sad.

[Lecreuset]

Having alot of fun with Extreme mode here

[KenzieLynch]

This game heavily relies on Instant Kill Mechanics to make content difficult. Titan is the only fight IN THE ENTIRE GAME that has the possibility to completely remove you from the fight. On top of pretty much every action he does being an instant kill.

Constant dodging is not only trivial, but frustrating when if you screw up one time your done. I clear twintania weekly, and even twisters aren't as punishing as landslide. Sick of this being considered "fun" Content when half the people have difficulty getting out of ridiculous plumes. Please stop with all these instant kill mechanics that are way to over punishing.

You completely contradicted yourself. Can't take you seriously.

[ninthfantasy]

We tried the first few phases the other day (I've been busy so we haven't had time to go in there and give it a good shot) and I think it's awesome. It's demanding, quick and relies on your reflexes. Like Titan HM, it'll be a case of just learning the fight. If you know what to expect, you know when to move. Just keep practicing, it'll eventually become fun like Titan HM!

[Kat_Manx]

You completely contradicted yourself. Can't take you seriously.

That's not a contradiction..

a) This game has many bosses with instant kill moves. True.
b) Titan has the only instant kill move that makes it unable for you to return to battle. True.

[ServerCollaps]

That's not a contradiction..

a) This game has many bosses with instant kill moves. True.
b) Titan has the only instant kill move that makes it unable for you to return to battle. True.

demon wall

[AdvancedWind]

As someone who wiped over two days before getting a group that could down it (you *need* to see how cool the fight actually is when your group isn't melting 10 seconds after Earthen Fury. It's actually very nice), I respectfully disagree.

You just have to learn the fight, and you can do so simply by running a few times on duty finder before joining a server group. You can 100% control everything on that fight except for bomb patterns. In fact, Titan EX is ultimately made nearly trivial by simply having proper party stacking. That's the entire gimmick of the fight, the party needs to stick together to make the AoEs go where you want it to go.

You can control where Weight of the Land will hit in such a way that avoiding it is as easy as any other AoE in the game. You can control where the adds will go and where you want to kill them. You can control where Titan targets landslide and make even the 5way landslide + bombs from the last phase a simple move out, move in two step evasion that works exactly the same way as a single landslide evasion. You can't really say this is harder than Twintania.

(If you are having trouble on that part: Have everyone stand on one of the first bombs that spawns. Titan will target landslide on that bomb, which means the "safe" bomb will be landslide free. Now you just dodge landslide as normal running to the safe bomb, and return to where you were after the previous bomb exploded. Move out, move in. Done, not hard at all, and that's the single part most non winning groups end up dying.).

Unless you are actually lagging, you can get the basic idea of the fight and become able to avoid almost everything he throws at you in just a few runs. The main problem of the fight is getting a full group that can dodge it. Adequate personal performance on both Titan fights can easily be acquired with a few pure duty finder runs. I am just your average player here, and I managed to do learn it that way. Anyone can do it.

Also, I believe if your connection is bad, you should NOT be able to clear high level content on any network dependent game unless you're so overleveled for it you can eat everything. If you can consistently clear "top' content in any online game while having noticeable lag, that content NEEDS to be tuned up. Yes, this means some people might never be able to do this due to crappy net, but if you have constant connection issues that negatively impact your gameplay, maybe you shouldn't be playing an online game at all.

[Sayura_]

Also, I believe if your connection is bad, you should NOT be able to clear high level content on any network dependent game unless you're so overleveled for it you can eat everything. If you can consistently clear "top' content in any online game while having noticeable lag, that content NEEDS to be tuned up. Yes, this means some people might never be able to do this due to crappy net, but if you have constant connection issues that negatively impact your gameplay, maybe you shouldn't be playing an online game at all.

Please tell me why I have NO connection issues, lag, or problems with any other MMO but in FFXIV I get random lag spikes in instances?

Seems like not my problem.

[Kat_Manx]

demon wall

=( Me forgot about wall. But maybe someone else did too. xP

[Gardes]

So devs try to optimize their mmos so more people can play their game with less than strong computers but people need amazing internet speeds to play the game too?

Kinda amazing if you ask me.