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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    Relying on other players is the nature of a multiplayer team-based game.
    To a certain extent that's good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    At least in those games you mentioned, you don't have to rely on 7 other players.
    lol then why play an MMO if not to rely on the other players?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    lol then why play an MMO if not to rely on the other players?
    I don't mind relying on others to some degree. Just don't like it when one or two players can hold down an entire group as seen in titan hm. Most mmos aren't like this. The more skilled players can make up the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    I completely disagree with this statement. Instant death mechanics are commonplace in even the most critically acclaimed games. They aren't the product of a "lazy" and "talentless" designer. Platformers, in particular, are rife with instant deaths, whether it's getting eaten by the big fish in Super Mario Bros. 3 or touching spikes in a Mega Man game. Both of those series are considered great classics. MMOs have shifted to including more and more action mechanics these days (hence the big issue over latency). You might not like the direction MMOs have taken, and it's fine to say so, but that does not make them "cheap" or lazy.
    Mario uses instant death very rarely and Mega Man Wily stages where there's just spikes everywhere is lazy level design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Mario uses instant death very rarely
    Sorry, but you haven't been playing Mario very long if that's what you think. Mario uses instant death all the time. Instant death pits, scrolling screens that can crush you against a wall/push you off a cliff, lava, falling ceilings/crushing walls, fish that can swallow you whole...it's a staple of every classic Mario game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMElan View Post
    Sorry, but you haven't been playing Mario very long if that's what you think. Mario uses instant death all the time. Instant death pits, scrolling screens that can crush you against a wall/push you off a cliff, lava, falling ceilings/crushing walls, fish that can swallow you whole...it's a staple of every classic Mario game.
    I was thinking more along the lines of enemies. You're right, there are many other things I forgot about.
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    I disagree. Titan Extreme has to be the most fun I've had in this game since 1.0 launch. I especially love the dance with double plumes lol.
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    It's Titan Extreme. It's not supposed to be easy, it's supposed to be incredibly difficult...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    It's Titan Extreme. It's not supposed to be easy, it's supposed to be incredibly difficult...
    It's not incredibly difficult. In fact it's pretty damn easy. It's just also very cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvokerKeii View Post
    It's not incredibly difficult. In fact it's pretty damn easy. It's just also very cheap.
    Define "easy". People say everything is "easy" once it's beaten. Can we be honest with ourselves and say how the content really is once it's beaten? It took me 41 tries in the DF to beat Garuda Extreme, it's hard before i beat it and it's still hard now. That's personally how I feel.
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