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Thread: The Monk Temple

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    I don't see how anyone is giving value to SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    I don't see how anyone is giving value to SS.
    Probably because it has a non-negative effect on DPS?
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    I actually use the first one of these 3, though i think garuda extreme ring slightly pulls ahead of allagan maiming ring. Though it might be almost perfectly as good as eachother if you consider the autocrit on bootshine.

    Either way all 3 sets are pretty much in the realms of being the top, i personally dont like having to use food to reach accuracy cap (and i hate having green items equiped rofl, might have minor ocd).

    Id like to have your thoughts on the garuda ring vs the allagan maiming one, im not as good at theorycrafting sets as id like to be:P

    Anyway im getting pretty close, just need one of those rings, the belt and the allagan maiming bracelet.
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    Last edited by Rhained; 12-24-2013 at 12:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhained View Post
    *SNIP*
    X-Primal loot is interchangeable with their Allagan equivalents.

    Vortex Ring of Striking = Allagan Ring of Maiming
    Tremor Earrings of Striking + Inferno Bangle of Striking = Allagan Earrings of Maiming + Allagan Bracelets of Maiming
    *Keep ear/wrist sets together b/c of Accuracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Probably because it has a non-negative effect on DPS?
    Any fight where you can run out of TP it would become a very bad or negative effect on dps. The only time SS is good is fights like ifrit where GL gets reset over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    Any fight where you can run out of TP it would become a very bad or negative effect on dps. The only time SS is good is fights like ifrit where GL gets reset over and over.
    New rotation for 2.1 has a slower TP drain than our 2.0 rotation, so SS is more viable. You still can't afford to stack it, but it does provide a dps increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    Any fight where you can run out of TP it would become a very bad or negative effect on dps. The only time SS is good is fights like ifrit where GL gets reset over and over.
    2.06 GCD here, I usually ride top threat after tanks on Twintania, and I can make it through the whole fight without ever having to stop or even considerably slow DPSing and that's without paeon or ever going into conflags (now true, if I don't get in a conflag, though, I do usually get to <100 TP by the time the second neurolink drops, but divebomb gives you a breather to regain so that doesn't really matter). Learn to pace yourself and use Invigorate. SS is a useful stat.

    I'm really curious how many fights in the game you actually run out of TP on. In my experience there aren't many. Turn 4 is about the only one I ever have to really slow down at certain parts to retain TP for Rockbreaker spamming on spiders.
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    Last edited by Mishaela; 12-24-2013 at 07:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishaela View Post
    2.06 GCD here, I usually ride top threat after tanks on Twintania, and I can make it through the whole fight without ever having to stop or even considerably slow DPSing and that's without paeon or ever going into conflags (now true, if I don't get in a conflag, though, I do usually get to <100 TP by the time the second neurolink drops, but divebomb gives you a breather to regain so that doesn't really matter). Learn to pace yourself and use Invigorate. SS is a useful stat.

    I'm really curious how many fights in the game you actually run out of TP on. In my experience there aren't many. Turn 4 is about the only one I ever have to really slow down at certain parts to retain TP for Rockbreaker spamming on spiders.
    I agree my parser has me around 310 dps on twin so I'm always second in Aggro so never in the flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    Any fight where you can run out of TP it would become a very bad or negative effect on dps. The only time SS is good is fights like ifrit where GL gets reset over and over.
    It literally can't negatively affect your total DPS. The only way it could possibly do so is if it actually subtracted out damage you should be doing. It doesn't do this, even on the occasions that you TP starve. If you're TP starved, the damage that you think is being subtracted out isn't, it's damage that you did earlier than you normally could have.
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    Another cool thing that could happen for us monks is that AotD let's us spread DOTs. Get DM going then AotD while DM is ticking and spread that ticks to multiple mobs. The duration of the ticks last depends on the time you have left on DM. It'll b much like a combo.
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