Concerns about Content Patch 2.1

[Taemek]

It is so sad that everyone wants to be spoon fed something to do, because they are completely incapable of having fun on their own.

- Hey, do you want to go play in the dungeon?
- No it is boring.
- There is a new sword in there.
- Oh, I'd love to go, I love dungeons.
later
- Why aren't you doing dungeons?
- I have the sword, dungeons are boring.

How many dungeon runs does it take to get your Relic + one full DL set of Acc and Gear?

It is a little more then simply, running for a sword and then getting bored because said person obtained the sword, I am afraid.

Getting a little sick of these posts taking the whole concept of what was in the OP out of context, grossly I might add.

It takes 8090 Tomes of Philo to complete 1 Relic and 1 full DL set. That is 81 runs of 4 dungeons to choose from with am average run taking 35 mins for the people who do not speed run. That is 48 hours worth of running 4 dungeons, if you are a robot and have no afk's, wipes, issues etc. Then 3 more weeks of being capped at 300 Myth tomes a week which equates to another 23 runs if you do AK, another 13.5 hours or 30 runs if you do WP, another 17.5 hours. This does not take in to account the amount time/wipes on Primal Hard fights. So from the dungeons runs alone you are looking at roughly 65 - 70 hours worth of grinding in the same 4 dungeons, so please spare us your vague and terribly out of context examples.

Then people, like yourself wonder why speed runs have become a common trend......

[Malamasala]

How many dungeon runs does it take to get your Relic + one full DL set of Acc and Gear?

It is a little more then simply, running for a sword and then getting bored because said person obtained the sword, I am afraid.

As I said, it is all about enjoying the gameplay. When you can do that, you don't need updates. I still play DOOM today, and it is not because ID Software came out with an update last week or something. It is just the game being fun.

I suggest you just abandon the game if you don't like it. I did just like these people with FFXI, waited update for update for update for the game to become fun, while being mainly bored by it. And 10 years later, it was still boring because that game fixing update never happened. I'd hate to see you be bored that long just because you are still naive.

[Mook_Mook]

As I said, it is all about enjoying the gameplay. When you can do that, you don't need updates. I still play DOOM today, and it is not because ID Software came out with an update last week or something. It is just the game being fun.

I suggest you just abandon the game if you don't like it. I did just like these people with FFXI, waited update for update for update for the game to become fun, while being mainly bored by it. And 10 years later, it was still boring because that game fixing update never happened. I'd hate to see you be bored that long just because you are still naive.

do oyu pay 15$ every time you wanna play doom. If not they dont really compare

[Wolfhammer]

do oyu pay 15$ every time you wanna play doom. If not they dont really compare

Do you pay $15 every time you want to play FFXIV? If not, they really do compare.

[Ri_ri]

It takes 8090 Tomes of Philo to complete 1 Relic and 1 full DL set.

There are other gear sets besides DL and Relic, you know.

[Taemek]

There are other gear sets besides DL and Relic, you know.

Sure, like crafted sets? I can play that game, here let me enlighten you:

It takes 9 pieces of the consumables from the Tomes of Philo per piece.

You have 12 pieces x 9 = 13500 Tomes of Philo for a full set / 100 per run = 135 runs x 35 mins on average = 78.75 hours / 5 hours per day = 15.75 days. Who do you know plays for 5 hours a day 7 days a week?

This doesn't include the weapon because Relic is easier to obtain. 900 Tomes of Philo / 35 mins per run = 25 hours just for Relic alone.

CM & Preat don't drop gear, only Tomes.

WP & AK drop sets that you will eventually have for every Job role by the time you farm enough Philo tomes for 1 set of DL + 1 Relic OR The tomes required for the crafting set.

After that, then what? Allagan? yeah sure, range based luck roll system determined by a loot table where you may likely not see a single piece of loot for your class for weeks.

Myth tome sets? 5010 Myth tomes / 300 per week = 16.7 weeks. 300 Myth tomes / 30 tomes per run = 10 runs x 35mins = 5.8 hours per week x 16.7 weeks = 96.8 hours.

So lets recap here:

70 hours for full set of 1 DL + 1 Relic = 40.8 Dungeon Runs
103 Hours for full set of 1 Crafting gear + 1 Relic = 60 Dungeon Runs
121.8 hours for full 1 Myth set + 1 Relic = 71 Dungeon Runs
You can't even put a time frame on Allagan gear. You are simply lucky or you aren't.


So lets put this in to perspective, because most peoples first set of DL gear includes their Relic:

70 hours for full set of 1 DL + 1 Relic = 40.8 Dungeon Runs
78.75 hours for full set of 1 Crafting = 45.9 Dungeons Runs
96.8 hours for full set of 1 Myth = 56.5 Dungeon Runs Per set as they are job role only

Total Dungeon Runs = 143.2 Dungeon Runs.

How many dungeons do we have to choose from again? 4

Now, like it or not, try and paint a pretty picture over it all you like, fact is, 4 dungeons to run this many times is enough to make anyone quit due to lack of content. Lets not also forget to mention, these are assuming you never fail, get disconnected, have a bad group, wipe, AFK or have any down time what so ever.

Now that all the boring math is out the way, how many dungeons do you have to choose from to run over this amount of time? 4.......if you are still not following after all this, then I can't help you. This is my whole point, right here in this very paragraph.