Thread: Concerns about Content Patch 2.1

Originally Posted by Taemek

They used to release enough content to last over a year once upon a time.

People who are willing to pay for this garbage today are the reason why the standard of gaming quality has dropped to what it is today. It just gives companies an excuse to milk the cow.

Anyways, lets not go there. That is another whole topic on it's own.

The funny thing about this comment is that it is true, once upon a time they used to make mmos have content that lasted for a time. But also the time has changed, most of the player base wants everything right now to be leetzorz to their fc friends so they dont feel insecure about not making the raid this week, because their epeen wasn't long enough...sorry got sidetracked. People and their current desires have changed mmos. Everything needs to be instant gratification for this ADHD culture to survive. So lets start by removing most warp stations/atherite nodes/teles/returns. Just by doing this alone the game would be extended, ah but it wouldn't be fun to most the MOARRRRR culture. Then after all the methods of transports has been limited, raise the level for when we get Chocobo and airship passes. Next make dungeons the primary mode of leveling and FATES an after thought. I remember that a lot of class quests were toned down due to them being too difficult during phase 3. Well the list goes on and on as to what could extend the life of the game, but the culture has changed, the gaming culture that is, but also culture as a whole. Merely a byproduct of cultures need to be at the top the quickest without stopping to smell the roses.

But then just by saying this most would say, 'Well you don't have to play," or "Go play [insert game here] since it sounds like you would enjoy that more." I mean most don't have the tolerance for discussion as to what may improve, they are so insecure they need to shut down any thought that differs from their own. Honestly they don't want to improve the game they are the reason it will slowly die.

I agree Taemek, the current gaming culture is really a sad thing.

Aeno

Yes yes yes. I was thinking this as I teleported around doing fates on another new job last night, I remember playing MMOs where leveling was something I looked forward to because it happened only a few times a week. I remember having to stock up and prepare for a journey and how sometimes spending a day travelling was an accomplishment in and of itself. Unfortunately (IMO) MMOs have changed.

That aside, please don't seriously raise the "load on instance servers" flag. Seriously. I know everyone on the internet is an expert, but I work on a much larger hosted service than FFXIV, and capacity management is part of service delivery 101. Servers are so cheap there's really no reason not to overbuild, especially with the (likely) ability to virtualize (not everything can be of course, and maybe the DB load from an MMO can't). It's not the excuse of a legitimate company.

Originally Posted by Taemek

They used to release enough content to last over a year once upon a time.

"Once upon a time" people used to play on PCs that only had HDDs with 10-20 gigs and playing games on DOS. Also games only took anywhere between 500mb-1gb. I remember when Diablo 2 came out and thinking 1.5 gb of a game was crazy talk.

When MMOs first came out the gaming abilities of the general populous were limited.

Fast forward to today and most of the MMO players have been playing for a decade or more these players have gotten better at this genre. Because of that content is being consumed much faster now than it was in what some might say was the "Golden Era" of MMOs back in the early 2000s.

It is true that most MMOs are going towards the feared "Casualization" but its because people don't have time to sit and play for hours and people are better at playing them and thus go through content much faster now than a decade ago.

Originally Posted by Taemek

Bunch of BS about increased social media and Internet availability equating to people actually having more available time to game.

Just because people have more access to the Internet does not mean they have more available time today than they did onthe early years of MMOs. 15 years ago when MMOs were just barely coming out most players were unpopular teenagers with loads of free time to devote to the sole endeavor of progressing on their favorite MMO. Today a good chunk of the MMO population are adults and/or people who have busy lives and don't have the hours free back to back to burn through the content or the justify the pointless time sinks you used to see in MMOs. If you take a minute and think (maybe even consider how your arguments might be countered) before you open your mouth you'll be much less likely to say something stupid.

You are correct and the only thing that is going to solve it is if 2.2 Is like a month after 2.1. And to all the white knights please tell me what is going to happen when more than 50% of the population is doing nothing but coils turn1-5 for the next 6-8 months after 2.1? I don't know what the plans for Extreme fights but I doubt they are going to be dropping gear/weapons so I doubt that will be much incentive to run those over and over.

My problem with 2.1 is more people are doing well in Coil than they seem to have expected. Which puts CT in a pretty bad position. I'm glad it's coming but there is really no more variety outside of a new tome farming dungeon. Just a previously absent stepping stone to Coil that isn't entirely necessary.

Also it'll force Duty Finder roulette on sub 100 member FCs which I don't particularly like.

It matters not here if you class yourself as a casual or hardcore player, the fact is, 2.1 is looking to be released after the New Year and in my honest opinion, with the current content that is here, that is too long to wait and people will start looking for greener pastures.

The release date is currently "this year," as per the dev blog.

Originally Posted by Alhanelem

The release date is currently "this year," as per the dev blog.

inb4 December 31st hahaha

Originally Posted by Babydoll

inb4 December 31st hahaha

Knowing SE, they will most likely delay 2.1 for "winter" 2014.

And if they do.. oh man.. they are going to lose a ton of subscribers.