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    Ayvar Bjornstad
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    I admit I am very wary of getting involved in this thread. However there is a ridiculous amount of misinformation going around that I feel must be addressed to avoid confusing people that aren't as experienced with a Dragoon.

    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    this rotation I posted does more than the other one consistently.
    Quote Originally Posted by AzumaKun View Post
    Interesting seeing the differences between this rotation and the one posted on this thread:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...otation-Reborn
    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    Either way, this rotation does more than the other one with parsers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronzeru View Post
    I've always used somewhat of a Hybrid between your rotation and the other thread's rotation either.
    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    That's specifically why I invented this rotation.
    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    but for what it's worth, this rotation I posted does more than the other one consistently
    I want to make this very, very clear. There are four rotations presented in the Rotation Reborn thread. The first is designed to teach people the mechanics of buff and debuff cycling. It's simplistic, easy to remember, and excellent for learning the basics of Dragoon mechanics. Once people are comfortable with playing a Dragoon, there are then three other rotations presented that can be adopted if people are looking to put out more single target dps, avoid chaos thrust clipping, get Disembowel off earlier, etc.

    Additionally, there are pages of discussion regarding which rotations produce more dps with 100% uptime. At no point do I ever claim that the first rotation presented in the thread is the highest damage rotation on a dummy. In fact I specifically deal with this entire argument in the "Closing the Fracture" section.

    I would in fact argue that the rotation you present is merely a slight variation on the following created by EasyModeX (with Fractures injected as needed to avoid CT clipping):

    HT-ID-Dis-CT-Ph-TT-VT-FT-HT-TT-VT-FT-Ph-ID-Dis-CT-HT-TT-VT-FT-Ph-TT-VT-FT

    Which is in fact the highest "dummy" rotation. The difference between your own presentation and the above is that you overwrite Disembowel when you don't need to, and let CT drop when there is also no need to, costing you dps.

    I have no problem with providing useful information, but you've blatantly ignored ground that has already been well covered, and presented your own strawman argument against only the first rotation (out of four) presented in the Reborn thread by saying your own does more damage, when the first rotation was never presented as the highest damage rotation to begin with.

    I appreciate that you are an excellent player (as Zabuza has made abundantly clear), but this thread brings nothing but additional confusion to an already confusing job.
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    Last edited by Ayvar; 11-04-2013 at 08:38 AM.
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