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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    I presented something that does more DPS than the other rotation,
    Sorry, I've been trying to watch this thread from the sidelines since my last post and with LongNu on ignore, but I just couldn't help myself.

    Unfortunately for you, the burden of proof is on you. Otherwise, no one will take what you say seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzumaKun View Post
    Unfortunately for you, the burden of proof is on you. Otherwise, no one will take what you say seriously.
    I've already done my tests and found my proof. I am more than satisfied in my findings. You, on the other hand have yet to disprove me which only adds to my satisfaction in what I have found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    I've already done my tests and found my proof. I am more than satisfied in my findings. You, on the other hand have yet to disprove me which only adds to my satisfaction in what I have found.
    Where are the parses?

    Parses = Fact.

    Your Satisfaction = Nothing.

    I'd like to see both parsed out -- Until then, the best we have is theory-crafting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masked View Post
    Parses = Fact.
    Parses are far from 100% accurate and for what it's worth, I've already used the faulty mechanism to gain my results by testing both rotations. Therefore...

    Your Satisfaction = Nothing.
    I'm satisfied with what I've found, unless I was specifically shown otherwise. Which I have not been up to now.

    Until then, the best we have is theory-crafting...
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by matic View Post
    you keep using that word, etc etc
    Because it's true.
    /Shrug
    There has been nothing to otherwise convince me other than trolling, name-calling and useless untested schematics. If that's 'proof' then I must be rudely mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    Parses are far from 100% accurate and for what it's worth, I've already used the faulty mechanism to gain my results by testing both rotations. Therefore...


    I'm satisfied with what I've found, unless I was specifically shown otherwise. Which I have not been up to now.


    I agree.


    Because it's true.
    /Shrug
    There has been nothing to otherwise convince me other than trolling, name-calling and useless untested schematics. If that's 'proof' then I must be rudely mistaken.
    To be fair that's incorrect usage of the word "schematics". That's pretty much the only useful thing I can add here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    Parses are far from 100% accurate and for what it's worth, I've already used the faulty mechanism to gain my results by testing both rotations. Therefore...


    I'm satisfied with what I've found, unless I was specifically shown otherwise. Which I have not been up to now.


    I agree.
    I fail to understand how parsing is inaccurate.

    All of your information from FFXIV is time-stamped, this includes damage.

    A parser takes that damage, including dots and spits out a total dps.

    There is no data, unless the parser cannot add, that can be mis-construed.

    Even if dot damage was cycled differently, your DPS wouldn't change because it's still over a time period.

    Ultimately, I fail to see how a parser cannot add.

    I'm also not calling you names, simply saying that until you put forth evidence -- There is no fact to base this theory on...You know, a lot like UFOs are real...Just sayin.
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    Player LongNu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masked View Post
    I fail to understand how parsing is inaccurate.
    The parsers themselves aren't 100% accurate in terms of recording information. This isn't speculation, this is actual fact that can be tested in game right now. Take a friend and parse yourselves against a boss, a dummy, a mob or whatever and you'll see for yourself. Some of the results shown in comparison to my other field testers have been wild and inaccurate to what was shown on my parser. We used the same parser with wildly different inconsistent results. For what it's worth, however, I have used this faulty mechanism to gauge my DPS using the rotation I presented and the other(s) in the other thread and this one has proved more beneficial for me (Higher DPS) in every situation and circumstance. Be it 30s, 3m, 7m fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    I've already done my tests and found my proof. I am more than satisfied in my findings. You, on the other hand have yet to disprove me which only adds to my satisfaction in what I have found.
    I feel like Donald Rumsfeld is playing this character.
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    Ok so I just wanna know once and for all... what proof would be enough to satisfy you? Prove has already been put forth and you guys are saying there is no proof... What proof do you want, what boss is standard for determining what DPS is valid? Or is it a dummy? If so, how long of a parse do you need? It just seems no matter what proof is put forth some people just don't want to believe the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Ok so I just wanna know once and for all... what proof would be enough to satisfy you? Prove has already been put forth and you guys are saying there is no proof... What proof do you want, what boss is standard for determining what DPS is valid? Or is it a dummy? If so, how long of a parse do you need? It just seems no matter what proof is put forth some people just don't want to believe the truth.
    You guys are in here talking about the equivalent of someone batting .500 a week into the season and you're wondering why no one's impressed. It's absurd.
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