Quote Originally Posted by BlossomRose View Post
Actually the problem is that I run with a monk and a dragoon most of the time. The AOE damage isn't what it could be. We also lose time going for the chests (I hear the more thorough speedruns skip them entirely but I like the extra income they generate). I believe current record is like, 9 minutes? But either way, point being, the 8man dungeons aren't useless or really THAT suboptimal unless you have the uberest of groups.

Most people don't have access to super privileged mega groups +1 of cliqueness. Most people have to go with /shout groups. So, you know, in those cases, averages have told me it doesn't matter what you run, it's all pretty much the same thing.

You want to organize super groups for WP, you -can-, go ahead. But that doesn't make Prae/CM/AK worthless. Worthless to YOU maybe, and others with similar luck, but to newer players and such, each dungeon has its ups and downs.
As I said, even a regular group can get WP done in 25 minutes which is faster than any other dungeon with regular people.

With regular groups you're talking 40m+ in AK, 35m+ in Castrum.