Tank mentality.

[Meta-Flare]

Next example that comes to mind was in halatali. I know it's a low level dungeon and I'm a noob lol. Anyway, it's me as a lancer, a white mage, black Mage and a paladin. So I'm sure that most people remember the chains you have to pull and then there are those snake things that are kinda strong. Well the tank pulled his three adds and then immediately the black Mage pulls the chain and spawns in three lightning sprites. Well I'm the only one attacking the snake as it pounds the tank and the healer wasnt really keeping up with the tank cuz they had to grab the blackmage after the sprites hit them. So to speed it up and take the pressure off the healer I used a lvl 1 limit to kill the creeper. Then everything got back on track.

Then after the first boss in the water, I always say before hand in case someone doesn't know that you can't stay in the water. So after I say that the tank says "no duh asshole" then the whm says that he didn't know that and to back off. Then the tank stayed in the water for most of the fight lol. After the fight was over he used the limit and when I asked "why did you waste that" he said " you wasted one" then I said I didn't I was trying to take pressure of the healer. Then he starts to cus and freak out on me saying I need to "learn how to play"which I thought people said that as an example but he actually said it lol. So as I'm typing he starts another fight and then he dies somehow with in like 12 seconds and then he blames that on me. So I tried to say I was typing and that I'm not a healer so I couldn't have kept you alive anyway. He lays into me and I just fight the final boss call him an asshole and leave.

[saber_alter]

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just going to respond because i'm already here.
a fun fact about mobs that use spells: if you are not in their view and the spell is not an AOE, it will fail. meaning that if you rotate an enemy spellcaster at a certain speed, you will never take damage. this can be done with sprites, mages, bosses (like void cthulhu), spirits, succubi, and floating eyes.

might make a melee Dps mad, but you make healers job boring in the process

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Well I tried to explain to him that if he pulls the group and then I sleep one of them that it's not necessary to try and regain aggro on the slept monster. But he kept raging that me sleeping them reset the aggro and that I was taking hate of those monsters. The main reason I was sleeping was the summoner was not very good and things were taking very long to die and I wanted to make my life easier as the healer. I'm a very competent healer and use medica very rarely as to not steal hate. So it pissed me off that he said I need to learn my role. I don't tell people how to play and talk down to them at the same time. So I don't expect others to do that to me. I wasn't even mad at the fact he kept attacking the sleepers, he could have said hey no need to sleep I can handle it or something like that but he went straight to cussing and insults.

[Meta-Flare]

just going to respond because i'm already here.
a fun fact about mobs that use spells: if you are not in their view and the spell is not an AOE, it will fail. meaning that if you rotate an enemy spellcaster at a certain speed, you will never take damage. this can be done with sprites, mages, bosses (like void cthulhu), spirits, succubi, and floating eyes.

might make a melee Dps mad, but you make healers job boring in the process

I'm not sure what this has to do with the scenario I gave.

Also the other post I made was for you as well.

[GrimmWulf]

In my experience a lot of players just enjoying blaming tanks for any short comings the group has.
When I find good DPS and or healers I just add them to friends & try to only run with my FC

[Meta-Flare]

In my experience a lot of players just enjoying blaming tanks for any short comings the group has.
When I find good DPS and or healers I just add them to friends & try to only run with my FC

I don't have a FC. Me and my friends were going to start one but two of them quit already and there's only 2 of us left so we can't make one. And I haven't been invited to one yet so the FC thing isn't an option.

[GrimmWulf]

I see, well I hope things turn around for you and you meet some nicer people in your pug groups.
Otherwise just try to make some premade groups where you can speak with the players before running dungeons with them

[JormungandrVanagandr]

I'm kinda hot and cold. One run a mistake may not bother me, but on another run that very same mistake may twist my insides to the point where I type something unnecessary into party chat. When I'm angry I can say some incredibly scathing things that just pick people apart, but if I realize I went too far I'm not above apologizing in the middle of group chat to the victim.

Some of us become douchebags over the course of time after having our psyche worn down like waves hitting a beach from prima donnas that we just can't take any more crap from them. So sometimes our first instinct is for the lizard brain to take over and just kick some e-ass. I'm not particularly proud of it, but it is what it is.

I do appreciate the compliments I have received after a lot of runs though. Things that range anywhere from "Wow, so much better than our other shitty tank", "Best tank ever" after solo'ing the last 30% of the chimera in Cutter's Cry on my PLD alt to "You should write a guide on how to Warrior tank" after an AK run even though I outgear the crap out of the place makes me feel much more grateful than any "Thank You" I type into group chat can possibly communicate and make the woes of tanking worth it. 100%.

[Javen]

I can put up with a lot, I just don't enjoy being rushed I move at a pretty strong pace, but if you pull as a DPS, that's the best way to get on my nerves.

[FrancisBean]

I am guessing.. but Tanks take ALOT of abuse in this game. Tanking/Healing both are a step up as far as visiblity in party fails.. If somethings goes awry .. its always.. that healer sucked, or that tank sucked.. after hearing abuse alot.. you can dish it back or just choose not to take it.. as a new tank.. i used to always be dps.. i am still learning.. a duty or run.. i may not get right on the very first run.. but later will ace it.. I realize some guys run these runs/duties non stop and have like 30+ runs.. to my 1sit or 2nd.. but its always.. that tank sucked or something like that.. So I think the bad attitude is just a reflection of the abuse or bad mojo that was directed at them earlier.. I have to take the abuse until i learn the run.. but sometimes.. ya f those guys