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    Next example that comes to mind was in halatali. I know it's a low level dungeon and I'm a noob lol. Anyway, it's me as a lancer, a white mage, black Mage and a paladin. So I'm sure that most people remember the chains you have to pull and then there are those snake things that are kinda strong. Well the tank pulled his three adds and then immediately the black Mage pulls the chain and spawns in three lightning sprites. Well I'm the only one attacking the snake as it pounds the tank and the healer wasnt really keeping up with the tank cuz they had to grab the blackmage after the sprites hit them. So to speed it up and take the pressure off the healer I used a lvl 1 limit to kill the creeper. Then everything got back on track.

    Then after the first boss in the water, I always say before hand in case someone doesn't know that you can't stay in the water. So after I say that the tank says "no duh asshole" then the whm says that he didn't know that and to back off. Then the tank stayed in the water for most of the fight lol. After the fight was over he used the limit and when I asked "why did you waste that" he said " you wasted one" then I said I didn't I was trying to take pressure of the healer. Then he starts to cus and freak out on me saying I need to "learn how to play"which I thought people said that as an example but he actually said it lol. So as I'm typing he starts another fight and then he dies somehow with in like 12 seconds and then he blames that on me. So I tried to say I was typing and that I'm not a healer so I couldn't have kept you alive anyway. He lays into me and I just fight the final boss call him an asshole and leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meta-Flare View Post
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    just going to respond because i'm already here.
    a fun fact about mobs that use spells: if you are not in their view and the spell is not an AOE, it will fail. meaning that if you rotate an enemy spellcaster at a certain speed, you will never take damage. this can be done with sprites, mages, bosses (like void cthulhu), spirits, succubi, and floating eyes.

    might make a melee Dps mad, but you make healers job boring in the process
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    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    just going to respond because i'm already here.
    a fun fact about mobs that use spells: if you are not in their view and the spell is not an AOE, it will fail. meaning that if you rotate an enemy spellcaster at a certain speed, you will never take damage. this can be done with sprites, mages, bosses (like void cthulhu), spirits, succubi, and floating eyes.

    might make a melee Dps mad, but you make healers job boring in the process
    I'm not sure what this has to do with the scenario I gave.

    Also the other post I made was for you as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meta-Flare View Post
    I'm not sure what this has to do with the scenario I gave.

    Also the other post I made was for you as well.
    it was relevant to the first paragraph of the second scenario, just a little thing i found.

    i did see the other post though, the tank was an ass. there is nothing more to say.

    he needs to learn how healing works before trying to telling someone to "learn their role."

    as a tank i like to keep my party alive, if i am having trouble keeping hate on enemies i would rather have a healer or BLM sleep them to reduce the burden (this is as a paladin of course, i'm pretty sure warriors have a better time AOE tanking). i feel that if someone pulls a mob away from me and said mob's HP is above half, i have failed and will rush to try to get it's attention.

    ive had mean people run with me, i have had nice people. during my first run at longstop i had a dps that was hostile to me to an extent, but he helped me better learn my role. i have had healers that are obsessed with AOE heals and make my job tough, i have had dps that acted independently. even then i do my best to keep hate, as i have found it that the dungeon progresses quicker if i make sure that i am the center of every single mob's attention and DPS/healer isn't dying because they pulled something off of me.
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    Last edited by saber_alter; 10-18-2013 at 12:12 AM.