The Monk Temple

[Ismenia]

Oh yea just got my soul crystal, so turn monk at 30 or 50?

What's the difference? Does it matter when? Any benefits of either 1?

You can change your job to a Monk at level 30 PGL and level 15 LNC. Being a MNK adds a few more skills to your arsenal, but at the cost of cross-classing. You are only able to use MNK, PGL and LNC skills (if I'm not wrong, ARC skills too, or something else) when your job is switched to a MNK.

[TorinNionel]

For those of you who have a rear, and flanking move in your rotation - are you switching between the rear and flank, or are you just standing where the most of your moves will land best?

I've been trying to switch between rear and flank but it can be a bit difficult in some fights, especially when enmity isn't solid.

[Dreey]

I just use monk full time from 30 on. I see no reason not to.

One complaint since hitting 40 though, having to choose between fists of fire and fists of wind on a boss to boss basis. Wish we had a fist that was all three...or atleast fire and wind.

Hmm, guess might as well use it at 30. I mean why wait to open my present lol.

And fellow Behemoth, hiyoooo

[Dreey]

You can change your job to a Monk at level 30 PGL and level 15 LNC. Being a MNK adds a few more skills to your arsenal, but at the cost of cross-classing. You are only able to use MNK, PGL and LNC skills (if I'm not wrong, ARC skills too, or something else) when your job is switched to a MNK.

As long as we can choose from those 3 classes, I'm ok with it

[Odiato]

For those of you who have a rear, and flanking move in your rotation - are you switching between the rear and flank, or are you just standing where the most of your moves will land best?

The best thing is obviously switch all the time between rear and flank and i always do that. If for some reason i can't, i just use those skills which are better for the side where i am.

[Ismenia]

For those of you who have a rear, and flanking move in your rotation - are you switching between the rear and flank, or are you just standing where the most of your moves will land best?

I've been trying to switch between rear and flank but it can be a bit difficult in some fights, especially when enmity isn't solid.

I just try my best to hit the rear and flank as needed. More fun that way.

[kukurumei]

Or you could keep both DOTs up on bosses whilst also using Impulse Drive when you can.

Touch of Death -> Bootshine -> Twin Snakes -> Demolish -> Fracture -> Bootshine -> Impulse Drive -> Twin Snakes -> Snap Punch -> Bootshine -> Impulse Drive -> Impulse Drive -> Twin Snakes -> Demolish -> Fracture will keep up your greased stacks as well as your DOTs, applying Touch of Death whenever it goes off as well.

I excluded Dragon Kick as I'm not yet 50 and I do not have it, but even then it doesn't really change anything - just another skill you'll have to cycle through.

Not likely, to keep optimal power pre-50 (no dragon kick rotation) you get about 1 free skill "do what you want" skill in the 3forms rotation. And this is assuming you keep up twin snake at every possible rotation.

you refresh grease, twin is 12 seconds. that means unless you have a very very stable opponent, you are likely to extend it to 4 skills without loosing any one of those buffs. You maybe able to extend a 5th one with the skill speed up, but you usually end up hitting the animation wall, when you add in buff stacking (animations count if even if GCD doesn't) So anything more is theoretical bickering on "possible". This isn't even considering to have to add in "error correction" because all stuff is applied at the end of the animation, not the beginning.

So except for burst damage scenarios (buff-spam) for consistent damage rotation, you want only weave in 1 extra skill from rap-cou-oppo.

So while people want to be l33t and use all these complicated rotations... a simple 3+1 step rotation will net you 99% mnk powerness.

[Odiato]

So while people want to be l33t and use all these complicated rotations... a simple 3+1 step rotation will net you 99% mnk powerness.

99%? I want 100%

[J_Burton]

Hey! checking in to the pug/mnk thread.

I have a few noobish question I guess about the class. I'm currently at level 28 as a pug and im wondering if when I hit 30 should I immediately start working to unlock Mnk or should I finish off pug to 50 first for some of the skills?

Also I'm wondering on any tips you use when soloing. I've found I can still hit all of the flank/ rear requirements in a one on one fight, albeit it's a bit harder then when there is a tank, and I'm wondering if there are any tricks on how to move the opponent to make this easier. It helps a lot with dropping the enemies faster especially when your in an area where you can pull a few at a time and as of right now my only aoe is arm of the destroyer....which is just sad for its tp cost.

[Almalexia]

Hey! checking in to the pug/mnk thread.

I have a few noobish question I guess about the class. I'm currently at level 28 as a pug and im wondering if when I hit 30 should I immediately start working to unlock Mnk or should I finish off pug to 50 first for some of the skills?

While you are MNK, your PGL level will also increase. Your PGL level is your MNK level, and vice-versa.

In terms of skills, PGL skills will unlock automatically and MNK skills have to be quested.

Edit: although you will need to quest your lv.15 and 30 PGL skills too!