The Monk Temple

[NoctisUmbra]

Enjoy being the top single-target DPS job at 50 guys

[Hoffburger]

Currently deciding between dragoon and monk (will get both classes relatively high regardless due to mantra and blood for blood being really good cross class abilities). My questions are mainly if monk has a bunch of off GCD abilities like dragoon. Dragoons get a ton of abilities that do high damage that aren't on the GCD that they can weave into their rotation. Do monks get something similar?

[NoctisUmbra]

Currently deciding between dragoon and monk (will get both classes relatively high regardless due to mantra and blood for blood being really good cross class abilities). My questions are mainly if monk has a bunch of off GCD abilities like dragoon. Dragoons get a ton of abilities that do high damage that aren't on the GCD that they can weave into their rotation. Do monks get something similar?

Steel Peak and Howling Fist. One is a strong stun, the other a strong line AoE. Both off GCD.

[Hoffburger]

Steel Peak and Howling Fist. One is a strong stun, the other a strong line AoE. Both off GCD.

Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but to me it seems Dragoons do significantly more DPS than Monks. Monks attack 15% faster sure, but from videos I see, Dragoons are doing well over 15% more damage per hit. Dragoon auto attacks seem to be in the 130-150 range while Monks seem to be in the 100ish range. Dragoons have much higher potency on their abilities and the DoTs are similar in overall potency, so I just don't see it. Dragoon off-GCD abilities seem to have much higher potency as well.

Can someone please point out what I might be missing?

[Geshtar]

Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but to me it seems Dragoons do significantly more DPS than Monks. Monks attack 15% faster sure, but from videos I see, Dragoons are doing well over 15% more damage per hit. Dragoon auto attacks seem to be in the 130-150 range while Monks seem to be in the 100ish range. Dragoons have much higher potency on their abilities and the DoTs are similar in overall potency, so I just don't see it. Dragoon off-GCD abilities seem to have much higher potency as well.

Can someone please point out what I might be missing?

yeah you missed something a mong get nerly permanent 36% more dmg and the enemy 10% lesser resistence + he can take dragoons eye for eye so he gain 56% dmg 15% more speed and he crits with nearly every hit

[ilJumperMT]

Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but to me it seems Dragoons do significantly more DPS than Monks. Monks attack 15% faster sure, but from videos I see, Dragoons are doing well over 15% more damage per hit. Dragoon auto attacks seem to be in the 130-150 range while Monks seem to be in the 100ish range. Dragoons have much higher potency on their abilities and the DoTs are similar in overall potency, so I just don't see it. Dragoon off-GCD abilities seem to have much higher potency as well.

Can someone please point out what I might be missing?

Actually DRG is less DPS then Monk but quite a margin. Dragoon offers burst damage. he doesn't need to build momentum, but when monk pulls momentum no one can reach his single target dps.

Tha0'ts what you get for playing easy mode.

PS. At 50 Monk GCD is less then 1 second <

[Spythe]

My questions are mainly if monk has a bunch of off GCD abilities like dragoon. Dragoons get a ton of abilities that do high damage that aren't on the GCD that they can weave into their rotation. Do monks get something similar?

I was in the same boat as well, had a 41 Dragoon then switched to my Monk which worked out great since I all already had all the great Dragoon abilities. Dragoon don't have a lot of abilities off GCD just their jumps and their stun for damage. Only 2 jumps actually do good dmg while the others are use at the right time kind of thing. The Dragoon has buffs off GCD but every class does. The good thing about the Monk is they have the lowest GCD once you get a full stack of Greased Lightning which is amazing. I decided on the Monk because you get more options than the Dragoon.

[Vensaval]

I've got to ask. How do people generally feel about Arm of the Destroyer? My only experience with it was in Beta (don't currently own the game) where I found little to no use for it.

Has anyone managed to bring out some of its potential yet?

[enil]

I've got to ask. How do people generally feel about Arm of the Destroyer? My only experience with it was in Beta (don't currently own the game) where I found little to no use for it.

Has anyone managed to bring out some of its potential yet?

It's an AoE ability. If you are hitting 4 or more targets you are doing more effective DPS than most of your other oppo form skills. The silence might be useful as well for mobs that are affected by it but as a on-demand interrupt it's useless considering its on the GCD and requires you to be oppo form.
It's also handy for tagging mobs in fates since you don't need to target a mob, just spam this as they are spawning in.

[Teeko]

Can we like...not insult other classes on these forums, please? I'd prefer to keep the discussions civil and on topic. Different classes appeal to different people, nothing "easy mode" about that