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Thread: Fishing in ARR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogue View Post
    Yes but there won't be a mini game related to it.... and lovers will always do gathering, even if it is easier, now when it comes to haters, they might try it if it isn't boring/long/complex (not my words) like it used to be in 1.0.

    And while you cannot make everyone happy, you can try to make MORE people happy by making some changes. And the goal is make more people happy, not just keep the features as they were in 1.0 to please the few players that enjoyed it back then.
    Yeah I get what your saying, but they really seem to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater on this one. Granted none of us have any idea what FSH is going to be like so Im not saying its ruined or anything melodramatic like that. Just seems that they could have listened to us a little more, heard what we think is golden and what we think sucks. Instead they appear to have just steamrolled over the whole thing. But hey! If Scholar can happen, anything can!
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    My personal hope would be for something like the fishing currently in FF XI. The original FF XI system was boring.. just sitting and waiting.

    I felt that the FF XIV 1.0 fishing minigame was tedious and not fun. I didn't like any of the "pick your parameters and then perform action" type mini games from 1.0, honestly.

    Looking forward to what they have in store for us in Phase 3. Fishing may be the first thing I do because I really am curious what they've done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akubikumo View Post
    Yeah I get what your saying, but they really seem to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater on this one. Granted none of us have any idea what FSH is going to be like so Im not saying its ruined or anything melodramatic like that. Just seems that they could have listened to us a little more, heard what we think is golden and what we think sucks. Instead they appear to have just steamrolled over the whole thing. But hey! If Scholar can happen, anything can!
    Yeah, I also did enjoy the mini game type of gathering, it felt more like a challenge rather than just a small task we had to perform to be able to craft something. I still hope there is something more challenging to the high level gathering, and deep sea fishing would be sweet!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robobandit View Post
    My personal hope would be for something like the fishing currently in FF XI. The original FF XI system was boring.. just sitting and waiting.

    I felt that the FF XIV 1.0 fishing minigame was tedious and not fun. I didn't like any of the "pick your parameters and then perform action" type mini games from 1.0, honestly.

    Looking forward to what they have in store for us in Phase 3. Fishing may be the first thing I do because I really am curious what they've done with it.
    I wouldn't mind this; I agree with you, the original system in XI was boring, but fighting your fish was really fun!
    Ass in the bait/rod swaps on location and it's just complicated enough without it being an exercise in tedium
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    Super excited!!!! My Fisher was 25 in 1.0 but 100 in XI (Ebisu, the whole nine yards). I always wanted to be able to continue fishing and so glad it now seems they will give it respect and not toss it to the back burner.

    Also, OMG THE NEW OUTFITS!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JillyBean View Post
    Super excited!!!! My Fisher was 25 in 1.0 but 100 in XI (Ebisu, the whole nine yards). I always wanted to be able to continue fishing and so glad it now seems they will give it respect and not toss it to the back burner.

    Also, OMG THE NEW OUTFITS!!!!
    Yes, I have 50 fisher on a 'fishing only' alt, and 45 fisher on my main. It was definitely my favorite DoL, and one of my favorite ingame activities overall. I was so mad when they said they were gonna ditch it as a real class, but now it looks like it's back, and I'm thrilled! :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    Yes, I have 50 fisher on a 'fishing only' alt, and 45 fisher on my main. It was definitely my favorite DoL, and one of my favorite ingame activities overall. I was so mad when they said they were gonna ditch it as a real class, but now it looks like it's back, and I'm thrilled! :3
    Well I hate to be that guy who rains on everyone's parade but we really don't know for sure if it is back or not. Yoshi-P's previous statements that one should be able to talk to friends while fishing COULD mean there will be no action or skills required or it COULD mean that it will be easier or less time dependent so that you could hook a fish, watch tv, and reel it in 10 minutes later.

    It is definitely good that we have to account for various parameters like temperature, depth, yada yada... but that doesn't mean it won't be automatic. Gardening in FFXI was automatic but with a lot of parameters to consider and while that worked for gardening it would definitely NOT work for fishing.

    I guess I am saying don't assume anything good or bad until we see it in action in phase 3. Stay vigilant though! And be ready to respond as a community if our original fears end up being realized in phase 3.
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    I think the fishing concept sounds rather neat. It sounds like it's turned into a more, relaxing experience, where you can just figure out what may be the best point to fish from and just cast while you do things like HW, watch tv, chat with others waiting for events to start, clean the house etc. It sounds like the concept of fishing will be something anyone can pickup to enjoy on a casual sense, but those who learn the best location to fish from, figure out the best rod/lure combination will be the ones to reap the most rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    I think the fishing concept sounds rather neat. It sounds like it's turned into a more, relaxing experience, where you can just figure out what may be the best point to fish from and just cast while you do things like HW, watch tv, chat with others waiting for events to start, clean the house etc. It sounds like the concept of fishing will be something anyone can pickup to enjoy on a casual sense, but those who learn the best location to fish from, figure out the best rod/lure combination will be the ones to reap the most rewards.
    I'm so excited to clean my house while fishing. Can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    I think the fishing concept sounds rather neat. It sounds like it's turned into a more, relaxing experience, where you can just figure out what may be the best point to fish from and just cast while you do things like HW, watch tv, chat with others waiting for events to start, clean the house etc. It sounds like the concept of fishing will be something anyone can pickup to enjoy on a casual sense, but those who learn the best location to fish from, figure out the best rod/lure combination will be the ones to reap the most rewards.
    Here's a thought. If you want to do homework, turn off the game.
    If you want to clean your house, turn off the game.
    If you want to watch tv, turn off the game.
    If you want to chat with your friends, find a comfy spot in Ul'dah and chat with your friends.

    DO NOT decide that fishing as a class is the class that gets changed for the sake of AFK.

    EDIT: I'll turn it around for you. I see that you have your class set to CRP, and you've leveled it to 50. Say SE decided that, since few people like CRP, they'll change the mechanics to benefit people who don't actually feel like playing. You could sit at your computer and control the synth, or you could tell it to do the same thing so that you can go watch tv. Or clean the house. Or chat. They'll turn crafting into the most mindless, pointless exercise so that people who feel like not doing it can still do it. And to top it all off, they'll remove any power in the economy you may have had.

    Because the new carpentry is for chatting.

    No class deserves this change. Fishers in 1.0 put a lot of work into the class. I can assure you I don't fish to chat. I don't want the option of maybe, if I feel like, having control of fishing. I want to fish, and I want to be good at it, and nuts to people who feel like going AFK. You want to ruin a class for people who can't sit down in front of a computer for a few hours? Make a new one. Call it the Idle class. It can have Ul'dah Squatter as a job.
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    Last edited by LlenCoram; 06-02-2013 at 01:00 PM.

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