Fishing in ARR

[Orophin]

I'm taking a more positive spin on things. It's not in B3 because it's undergoing so many changes right now that it's simply not ready.

This is where I'm at with it. I almost raged this morning when I saw Fishing won't be available in Phase 3, as it was the very first thing I wanted to test. But then I stopped to think about it. After reading the flavor text for fisherman and some of the translated stuff, it could very well be that Fisher is going to be so different than the other DoLs that they're still working on it to make it so it's not some mindless minigame. (this might be thanks to the emphatic feedback posts regarding fishing)

I'm in the same boat (haha) as you Llen, but we'll just have to be patient about this and hope that it turns out for the best. Yoshi-P hasn't disappointed me yet with his vision for the game, so I can only hope he can make fishing be something we can enjoy.

You're right, but it does mean that of all the classes, we'll have the "least finished" class if it requires the most tweaks post-launch. How is that fair? I suppose as far as fisher population they've decided they don't care.

To be fair, we're not going to get hands on Arcanist, Summoner or Scholar (and whatever its associated class is assuming it doesn't branch off Arcanist) until post launch, so they're all going to require some post launch tweaking since QA can only do so much in house. Players are good at finding creative ways to break things, so it's inevitable those classes/jobs will require some changes as well.

Best case scenario is we can hope that fishing will be ready for Phase 4 where there's still a small window of opportunity to test it and get some bug reports and feedback sent in so that it can be more polished for official release.

[Fatestorm]

I appreciate some of this optimism but it's not just entitled complaining now.

Every other FFXIV class from 1.0 has gotten a complete redesign and rebalance in the space of development thus far EXCEPT FISHER.

Maybe fisher has a lot to rebalance. But the game wouldn't dare to launch if Monk wasn't finished. Monk, the class which all monks claim is the least important and interesting of the DoWs, the one that SE always neglect, the one they never think about when designing endgame dungeons, that one. If Monk wasn't ready for phase 3, nobody would find it acceptable.

All this communicates is precisely that fishers are literally the very bottom of the barrel, no pun intended. Square Enix cares about everything else related to FFXIV MORE than it cares about getting fisher properly finished, and it doesn't even care to assuage the people affected.

As Llen has said, fine. You care about us the least. Fine, that much is perfectly clear. Could you at least bother sending a representative to tell us something? Other than "hah, no, we can't even spare a second to read or address your concerns, nobody cares?"

Ridiculous.

[Orophin]

I appreciate some of this optimism but it's not just entitled complaining now.

Every other FFXIV class from 1.0 has gotten a complete redesign and rebalance in the space of development thus far EXCEPT FISHER.

Maybe fisher has a lot to rebalance. But the game wouldn't dare to launch if Monk wasn't finished. Monk, the class which all monks claim is the least important and interesting of the DoWs, the one that SE always neglect, the one they never think about when designing endgame dungeons, that one. If Monk wasn't ready for phase 3, nobody would find it acceptable.

All this communicates is precisely that fishers are literally the very bottom of the barrel, no pun intended. Square Enix cares about everything else related to FFXIV MORE than it cares about getting fisher properly finished, and it doesn't even care to assuage the people affected.

As Llen has said, fine. You care about us the least. Fine, that much is perfectly clear. Could you at least bother sending a representative to tell us something? Other than "hah, no, we can't even spare a second to read or address your concerns, nobody cares?"

Ridiculous.

They HAVE answered the question about fishing in two different live letters. Not to any great extent, but they've still talked about it. There's plenty of things still shrouded in mystery, such as the new classes and the limit break system. We just need to be patient about this. Making demands out of the developers/community team isn't the way to go about it. They'll show it to us when they feel it's ready to be shown.

[Fatestorm]

They HAVE answered the question about fishing in two different live letters. Not to any great extent, but they've still talked about it.

Hmm.

A: I believe it'll be much easier to understand when you actually play.

Yup. Still waiting. Thanks for the clarification I guess...

[Nix]

I'm so glad to see this thread still going!
I read today that Fisher will not be included in phase 3, I guess we have to wait a bit longer to see what it's like

Take care evreewaaahn! And I hope you have many good dreams of pulling in mega-feeesh.

[Akira_Tenshi]

"* Fisher will not be available in phase 3."

*cries* It must be drastically different if it is still not ready.

[LlenCoram]

Other than "The weather will have some sort of effect" and "there will be different rods and lures," we really know nothing at all. Everything else is vague words thrown around meant to change the subject.

[Mjollnir]

Other than "The weather will have some sort of effect" and "there will be different rods and lures," we really know nothing at all. Everything else is vague words thrown around meant to change the subject.

Boats.

/10char

[MoonKeeperr]

More waiting to test out my beloved fishing oh well maybe i will be shock hopefully in a good way

[Mikaboshiff]

@ OP's Quote

That kind of sounds like FF11 Fishing.