Fishing in ARR

[Alaltus]

Except chocobo racing is a bit more exciting. it's a competition where you can win good stuff; Well it depends on what game you're referring to; In FF7 you could control the chocobo to some extent. In other games it was mostly really boring gamble.
Even in 1.0 fishing was just a matter of going to a specific spot, and gather specific fish; with a tedious mini-game involved.

Fishing can be exciting!, fishing can be a competition!
What we're asking for is something more than the boring tedious mechanics of 1.0. If your not convinced there are many games out there that have fishing in them that are far and away better than either of these systems.

The more I think about it, the more I feel myself swelling with unfounded optimism.

It's not being implemented until B3 because it's not finished yet, not because there's nothing to test! It's just going to be centred around Limsa, that's all.

Centred around Limsa... Means... THE SEA.

So I'm *sure* a group of 4-8 FSH will sign up for the fishing minigame, wherein they embark upon an ocean-trawler, head out into a 30 minute instance out at Indigo Deep, where they have to work together to keep control of the boat in stormy seas, avoid (or fight!) Sahagin, drop their nets (yes, NETS! none of this fishing-pole crap) and even go diving for treasure (though water-based movement will come in the third patch, not at launch) until the time is up, at which point they haul in their vast catch and head back to the Guild for huge XP and gil rewards, with a chance of extra treasures being caught up in the wash.

HAVE FAITH IN YOSHI-P!!!

+1 ^^

[Nuinn]

Battles aren't the only important thing in a game ._____. I swear, if some people knew how many """stupid""" things (triple the emphasis) I found fun and vital in 1.0 they'd have me murdered.

[Volsung]

Yes, I am currently disappoint. I will give it a try, but from the sounds of it, it seems.... uninteresting.

[Fatestorm]

I posted in the other thread too but I'll post here as well.

Q10: How will fishing work in FFXIV: A Realm Reborn?

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A10: It's probably best if you actually experience it in-game, so let me just go over the broad concept. In ARR, you will first need to walk near a water spot, select a fishing pole that matches the type of water, and then select the bait. There will be no actions during the fishing process. Instead, we will be providing a variety of fish-types depending on the area.

This is not a good answer. Not because we are going to throw an entitled fit, but because we are simply asking for information. And honestly, most of the answers in this letter were very vague. The problem here is that we have been told to expect 'big changes' to fishing for quite a while, and they have 'kept us on the hook' [eh? eh? ] for far too long without any real payoff.

What we want *most of all* are details with your plans for the system. Maybe not all people will be satisfied with the answer, and we can then discuss those details. But right now you have all us fishers jumping at shadows because we don't know how to read these vague insinuations.

If you just want to stick with the 'broad concept', then tell us this at least: are fishers still connected with the economy at all? With Massively's info and the info you provided in the letter, are we going to be able to make any money at all for our labor in leveling this job?

I can understand if perhaps you feel that the fast-paced nature of botany and mining don't fit the patience and quiet intensity required of fishing. I actually agree with you--without suggesting that fishing should require no input whatsoever (horrible idea). However, everyone in threads like this is worried that a class that they took the time to level is becoming obsolete in the game and its economy, and instead being turned into a trivial distraction to pass time while chatting. If ANY more light could be shed on this, confirming it one way or another, you would at least end a lot of desperate speculation.

Please don't tell us we all wasted our time leveling Fisher.

[LlenCoram]

I posted in the other thread too but I'll post here as well.



This is not a good answer. Not because we are going to throw an entitled fit, but because we are simply asking for information. And honestly, most of the answers in this letter were very vague. The problem here is that we have been told to expect 'big changes' to fishing for quite a while, and they have 'kept us on the hook' [eh? eh? ] for far too long without any real payoff.

What we want *most of all* are details with your plans for the system. Maybe not all people will be satisfied with the answer, and we can then discuss those details. But right now you have all us fishers jumping at shadows because we don't know how to read these vague insinuations.

If you just want to stick with the 'broad concept', then tell us this at least: are fishers still connected with the economy at all? With Massively's info and the info you provided in the letter, are we going to be able to make any money at all for our labor in leveling this job?

I can understand if perhaps you feel that the fast-paced nature of botany and mining don't fit the patience and quiet intensity required of fishing. I actually agree with you--without suggesting that fishing should require no input whatsoever (horrible idea). However, everyone in threads like this is worried that a class that they took the time to level is becoming obsolete in the game and its economy, and instead being turned into a trivial distraction to pass time while chatting. If ANY more light could be shed on this, confirming it one way or another, you would at least end a lot of desperate speculation.

Please don't tell us we all wasted our time leveling Fisher.

This. It's what I wanted to say, but my rage blinded me and made me type... not this. Thanks Fatestorm.

[Valmonte]

i wouldn't mind an XI like fishing mini game. you could mix it up a bit with line tension(based on Rod, Giving it more purpose). best part of any fishing minigame is having the fish struggle to get away.

im not down with the "you caught me, bro" fishing style minigame.

[Fatestorm]

im not down with the "you caught me, bro" fishing style minigame.

Ahahahahaha. This is line of the year right here.

[Valmonte]

Ahahahahaha. This is line of the year right here.

Fishing in ARR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqCmgbjeRw0

[Shougun]

Aww.. I was hoping earlier interviews saying the game got a deeper mini game.

If it really is a sit and watch where even botanist and miner have more skill involved.. I seriously hope the reps convey our disappointment in this decision. Like.. great disappointment.

Still hoping for misinterpretation of what he is saying though.

[Gumbercules]

Think the decision to do this was prolly more about how random the results of a mini game approach were/would be in regards to the fishes being yielded. I remember trying to fish up certain fish in 1.0 to level my alchemy or cooking and getting jack even though i was using the "correct" bait etc lol. Guess the "fishing" nerf is namely due to its tie to main crafting jobs, otherwise if it was secondary jobs like it is in games like wow, then maybe they could a left it as a random mini game.
I agree that getting my fishing to level 50 was a monumental pain in my ass, and feel kinda bad about the "time lost" like some of you, but the fact that a wasted time sentiment is even implied shows me how bad fishing as it was in 1/0 really was.
As far as what was said, I namely just read it as its like the other 2 gathering jobs without the "combo" style gathering, but well have to wait and see.