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    You try again. It's your stupid ass analogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    You try again. It's your stupid ass analogy.
    My, my. Someone is getting touchy. Very well, I'll throw you a bone and actually explain it for you. Though only god knows why something this simple needs to be explained...

    At no point did I say "The game is like a cookie." I stated that "Complaining about certain things in an Alpha is like complaining about a cookie that you didn't fully bake."

    As you can see, the comparison is between stupidity of complaints pertaining to incomplete products, not how the game is like a cookie.

    I feel deeply saddened this extremely simple thing needed to be explained to you. The comparison you're trying to insinuate is the comparison of the Alpha to Cookie dough. However, since that isn't what I said to begin with, the argument from you is just ...*sunglasses* half-baked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    My, my. Someone is getting touchy. Very well, I'll throw you a bone and actually explain it for you. Though only god knows why something this simple needs to be explained...

    At no point did I say "The game is like a cookie." I stated that "Complaining about certain things in an Alpha is like complaining about a cookie that you didn't fully bake."

    As you can see, the comparison is between stupidity of complaints, not how the game is like a cookie.

    I feel deeply saddened this extremely simple thing needed to be explained to you. The comparison you're trying to insinuate is the comparison of the Alpha to Cookie dough. However, since that isn't what I said to begin with, the argument from you is just ...*sunglasses* half-baked.
    Apparently you don't know how analogies work. If complaining about the game in alpha is like complaining about a cookie baking, you are taking the game to be the cookie. So yes, your analogy says the game is like a cookie. And since they have key differences, the game is not like a cookie, which makes the analogy a bad one.

    I feel deeply saddened (amused) that you don't even understand the mechanics of your own analogy, and furthermore, what an analogy does, or what makes a good analogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    Apparently you don't know how analogies work. If complaining about the game in alpha is like complaining about a cookie baking, you are taking the game to be the cookie. So yes, your analogy says the game is like a cookie. And since they have key differences, the game is not like a cookie, which makes the analogy a bad one.

    I feel deeply saddened (amused) that you don't even understand the mechanics of your own analogy, and furthermore, what an analogy does, or what makes a good analogy.
    It's very disappointing to see that you still lack comprehension on such a simple thing.

    Cookie and Game = Incomplete product. (Note that this is NOT saying that they are being compared to each other for the sake of similarities, but that they both represent an incomplete product for the purpose of the comparison.)

    Bake Time and Production Time = Time into the project. (Again, not compared to each other for the sake of similarities, but for the representation of the point on the timetable the game/cookie has been in production/bake)

    The analogy works because the comparison of one stupid complaint pertaining to an incomplete product translates directly into the stupid complaints of another incomplete product.

    But perhaps I can simplify this for you:

    Complaining about certain things in the Alpha is like complaining you're getting wet in the rain and you didn't bring an umbrella. (In before "Oh yes, because an umbrella is SO MUCH like the game!")

    If you still don't get it: "It's simply stupid."

    I will say nothing more on the matter. Good day to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    It's very disappointing to see that you still lack comprehension on such a simple thing.

    Cookie and Game = Incomplete product. (Note that this is NOT saying that they are being compared to each other for the sake of similarities, but that they both represent an incomplete product for the purpose of the comparison.)

    Bake Time and Production Time = Time into the project. (Again, not compared to each other for the sake of similarities, but for the representation of the point on the timetable the game/cookie has been in production/bake)

    The analogy works because the comparison of one stupid complaint pertaining to an incomplete product translates directly into the stupid complaints of another incomplete product.
    Cookie and Game = incomplete product.
    Bake time and Production time = Time into the project.
    No argument there. But let me spell this out for you, you are saying the game is like a cookie, and baking is like production time. That is what your equal signs represent. That is how analogies work. Hopefully you now understand that such an analogy entails you saying a cookie is like a game.

    Complaining about a game while being developed -> can lead to change
    Complaining about a cookie while being baked -> cannot lead to change

    Your analogy said the game is like a cookie, but here we have an instance of why the game is not like a cookie. Which means your analogy is stupid.

    You do not take into consideration the attributes of the subject matter being compared, and how they are different. One does not make a good analogy by outright ignoring the characteristics of the subject matter.
    Complaining about certain things in the Alpha is like complaining you're getting wet in the rain and you didn't bring an umbrella. (In before "Oh yes, because an umbrella is SO MUCH like the game!")

    I will say nothing more on the matter. Good day to you.
    It's really not. You are honestly horrible at making analogies and I hope you stop trying to do it, as you clearly don't understand how they work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    I will say nothing more on the matter. Good day to you.
    Next time just start here when these types of people start in man......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    Next time just start here when these types of people start in man......
    The mentality that no issue that you have should be mentioned during the alpha test, is pretty bizarre. Nothing wrong with just expressing a concern as early as you see it. The fact that we're not in beta phase isn't a reason to not bring anything up. That's what Alerith was proposing I should have done.
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    Actually I was merely commenting on a conversation descending into petty argument that leads to no real constructive ideas for anyone. Didn't mean to insinuate they shouldn't express opinions about the game.
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