CG Midlander

[Reyd]

So what does this mean? Minfilia witnessed this through Echo? as the leader of the organization we can assume she is more skilled using it

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I remember Minfilia does not posses the power of the echo. Those who are blessed with the echo gain mastery of all languages, I remember a CS where she requests your aid in translating Slyph chatter. I also thought she was the stand in leader until the real leader returned. Her title was Acting Antecedent? Perhaps the bigboss is the traitor teaching beastmen how to summon ^^?

[HiirNoivl]

Oppa, she has it... post below.

[Warlock]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I remember Minfilia does not posses the power of the echo. Those who are blessed with the echo gain mastery of all languages, I remember a CS where she requests your aid in translating Slyph chatter. I also thought she was the stand in leader until the real leader returned. Her title was Acting Antecedent? Perhaps the bigboss is the traitor teaching beastmen how to summon ^^?

Could it be that the paragon is Odin?...And Minfilia DOES have the Echo!!!

Minfilia:"Scores of men and women have passed through our doors looking to find answers, and scores have embarked on quests to do just that...but their efforts have gained us little...and many have not returned.
Of those few who have...not one is willing to speak of what he saw at the end of the Path. It is as if they all bore witness to a truth too terrible...or too shameful to be told.
There are those here who would have me use the Echo to delve into the past of the returned. Yet it would be wrong of me to use my gift to tear that truth from them against their will.
Were I to condone such an act of violation, we would be no better than the monsters people think us already."
Taken from "Fade to White"

[Anonymoose]

How ever did she persuade the primal to consider her counsel.

What the f-

Catapult's reply is on hold (He is right, though). Be right back.

[Reyd]

Could it be that the paragon is Odin?...

Is the paragon the leader (former?) of the Path of the twelve? If so... I assume he's just an echo blessed person who saw some crazy shit :P?

My own speculation ^^;
Odin is the Ascian Primal :P Quick! watch the CS to see if Odin has a shadow xD

[Warlock]

Is the paragon the leader (former?) of the Path of the twelve? If so... I assume he's just an echo blessed person who saw some crazy shit :P?

My own speculation ^^;
Odin is the Ascian Primal :P Quick! watch the CS to see if Odin has a shadow xD

I wasn't done with that post i was editing to prove you wrong lol

[Reyd]

I wasn't done with that post i was editing to prove you wrong lol

If she does have the echo... then why can't she understand the Slyphs? Hmm... I am now quite confused...

CS1 of together we stand^

[Anonymoose]

I'm still working on my other posts, but just wanted to pop in to weigh in on Milfinia's echo. This is not an If A=B and B=C then A=C situation. Yes, Milifinia has the echo:

There are those here who would have me use the Echo to delve into the past of the returned. Yet it would be wrong of me to use my gift to tear that truth from them against their will. Were I to condone such an act of violation, we would be no better than the monsters people think us already.

No, that doesn't mean she automatically gets to speak Sylph

As an unexpected side effect of the gift, it seems the ability to reach into the soul of another also allows some of us to understand their words without having to comprehend the sounds they utter. In short, the Echo has granted these fortunate souls mastery of every language existing on Hydaelyn.

She got gypped when they handed out Echo bonuses, is all. ^^

The echo allows you to enter memories, and it stands to reason that it's within those memories that we're most likely to hear what they really meant without needing to understand the exact words. We're outside of an echo when the Sylphs come in. If only some of us can make use of the "understand words without words' ability to begin with, fewer still of us must be those who have mastered all languages in the history of ever regardless of whether we're touching someone's soul enough to echo-jump them or not.

[Reyd]

ahaa, thanks for clearing that up, back to lurking for me :3

[Anonymoose]

DUMPTRUCK POST 1 of 3: PARAGON GENDER

TO COME:
The Symbol of the Path of the Twelve v. Bahamut's Prison
The Archons v. Hatchingtide

P.S.
Has anyone else noticed that this thread has become our de facto lore forum? Not that I mind, but we'd have blown through 10-15 topics by now, some still going, some closed and falling to the back of the pile, some being referred to by Fernehalwes Enthusiasts the forum over while the other diligent LOC devs weren't getting pings every time we said something...

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

How ever did she persuade the primal to consider her counsel.

<Anony Moose kicks in the door and throws papers all over the table.>

OFF WE GO.

Here is every response from every path companion about not finding the paragon. Some are more concise about it than others. Also, I hope ARR brings back those RP linkshells that blog everything they do. They made this so much easier...

Who are these souls who possess the knowledge to summon gods and bend them to their will? Perhaps it is not the beast tribes who we should be joining hands with...

^ Genderless

There is much I would like to ask this person...

^ Genderless

And find one we must. After all, if such a person has the power to stay the hands of a god, we may not need to fraternize with the beast tribes.

^ Genderless

What manner of person holds sway over the gods themselves...?

^ Genderless

He might have been able to tell us more about summoning our own primal...

^ MALE PARAGON

However did she persuade the primal to consider her counsel, I wonder. Whether through wily words or preternatural power, a formidable force is she!

^ FEMALE PARAGON

I must admit to being genuinely excited by the prospect of finally making the acquaintance of a Paragon, though...even if it means bumping into the sylphs. After all, if we could gain the favor of someone who holds sway over the primals, there'd be no need to fraternize with the tribes!

^ Genderless

Might've told us more about summonin' primals.

^ Genderless

I mean, if this person has the power not only to summon a primal, but to give it bleedin' orders, there'd be no need to waste our time wooin' these bastard beast tribes.

^ Genderless

CONCLUSION
We have two path companions who are shamelessly gender biased and making assumptions. What's odd is that a bunch of them refer to the paragon as a "he"/"him" earlier in the very same quest. Almost all of them, in fact. I only listed a few of the nine.

Do we conclude with the majority and assume it is a him? Possibly Urianger?

Or do we take this ambiguity as a sign to leave it alone until they flat out tell us who it is?

Thanks for bringing this one to the table, Hiir. Something tells me it would have thrown a wrench in a discussion someday if we hadn't checked it out XD