Will Relics create the same problems that they did in FFXI?

[Dzian]

In its prime for I would say 1 dynamis run would yield 12m worth of currency. The run only cost 1m.

LOL, so what 10 runs and you had the 100mil or so for a relic weapon. you are way off the mark. 10 runs 5 weeks for most linkshells thats about 10 completed relics a year per shell. You're numbers are way off

11 and 14 have two very different content levels and gear itemization. 11 gear grind was way harder then anything that has been and prolly will be implemented into 14.

Yet amazingly 11 content felt much more rewarding as a whole. which is primarily why everytime people post about the loot system they refer to 11. content was much more structured in xi. and you almost always saw something at the end of it. you'd go through the ball ache of grinding limbus zones to get keys but it was near impossible to walk out of ultima omega with nothing.

[Altena]

you'd go through the ball ache of grinding limbus zones to get keys but it was near impossible to walk out of ultima omega with nothing.

Actually probably one of the better points in this thread, regardless which side of the discussion you are on. AV and PW were 2 other great examples. Moderate grind (farming triggers) followed by a heavy element of skill.. AV and PW were no joke at 75 cap - to me that has a very heavy weight on skill (for the final fights themselves). I would much prefer a legendary weapon of some sort be based off this system (moderate grind followed by a skill benchmark) to the grind fest that the relic system was based on.

I am looking forward to fighting bigger and tougher bosses to upgrade the current relics I have.