Will Relics create the same problems that they did in FFXI?

[Queezy]

You don't see a problem with I got this weapon it might of taken me 2 months to get and some work but now I am set for the rest of this MMOs lifespan?

To me in FFXI it was very boring how they never came out with better weapons to get after relics until abyssea.

U coulda got a Mythic? or another relic. For one this so called comparing 14's relics to 11's relics is just dumb. You could not get every relic in a month even if u had the best of the best LS possible and exploited them to the fullest( at 75 cap). I knew of plenty of people who went from 0 "relics" to 4-5 in a matter of weeks in 14.

11 and 14 have two very different content levels and gear itemization. 11 gear grind was way harder then anything that has been and prolly will be implemented into 14. The mmo genre doesnt has been dumbed down way to much for people to accept a design like 11's. We got ppl who complain about having to do a week long quest to get a relic,now compare that to the endless dynamis runs u had to do or better yet to the mythic quest line since that was more quest based, people would have a fit.

[Zumi]

U coulda got a Mythic? or another relic. For one this so called comparing 14's relics to 11's relics is just dumb. You could not get every relic in a month even if u had the best of the best LS possible and exploited them to the fullest( at 75 cap). I knew of plenty of people who went from 0 "relics" to 4-5 in a matter of weeks in 14.

11 and 14 have two very different content levels and gear itemization. 11 gear grind was way harder then anything that has been and prolly will be implemented into 14. The mmo genre doesnt has been dumbed down way to much for people to accept a design like 11's. We got ppl who complain about having to do a week long quest to get a relic,now compare that to the endless dynamis runs u had to do or better yet to the mythic quest line since that was more quest based, people would have a fit.

I thought getting a relic in FFXI was much more doable. You can work on it any time you wanted by farming gil. The thing is I knew people who played FFXI not so much for FFXIV. I did get relic in FFXI pre nerf I found it a lot easier to get one in FFXI then FFXIV. Due to the fact of not knowing anyone who really wanted to do stuff in FFXIV.

[MicahZerrshia]

U coulda got a Mythic

But you actually have to (/gasp) work (/shock) for those (/feint), cant buy/farm gil and get fast mythics.

I for one always was meh on xi relics, started working on the mandau and just ended up selling all the currency I had stashed away for it, then it happened again with excalibur. My goal always was at least one mythic but organizing those events and keeping everyone interested for that long a time was nearly impossible. The dyna ls I had ran smooth for years and we could alway pick up non-ls members to fill any gaps. 6+ years of xi and I still dont even have capt rank >< just because of the lack of interest and the work you need to actually put into it. Then having to do them all again for the mythic quest, def isnt/wasnt going to happen

Now with gil being meaningless making getting an empy and even relics so incredibly easy ppl just look at you confused when you say you want to get a mythic (although I still want one)

Need to really get in on the ground floor with xiv and dedicate myself to getting stuff done when its shiney and new and ppl are doing it ALOT.

[Dzian]

In its prime for I would say 1 dynamis run would yield 12m worth of currency. The run only cost 1m.

LOL, so what 10 runs and you had the 100mil or so for a relic weapon. you are way off the mark. 10 runs 5 weeks for most linkshells thats about 10 completed relics a year per shell. You're numbers are way off

11 and 14 have two very different content levels and gear itemization. 11 gear grind was way harder then anything that has been and prolly will be implemented into 14.

Yet amazingly 11 content felt much more rewarding as a whole. which is primarily why everytime people post about the loot system they refer to 11. content was much more structured in xi. and you almost always saw something at the end of it. you'd go through the ball ache of grinding limbus zones to get keys but it was near impossible to walk out of ultima omega with nothing.

[Altena]

you'd go through the ball ache of grinding limbus zones to get keys but it was near impossible to walk out of ultima omega with nothing.

Actually probably one of the better points in this thread, regardless which side of the discussion you are on. AV and PW were 2 other great examples. Moderate grind (farming triggers) followed by a heavy element of skill.. AV and PW were no joke at 75 cap - to me that has a very heavy weight on skill (for the final fights themselves). I would much prefer a legendary weapon of some sort be based off this system (moderate grind followed by a skill benchmark) to the grind fest that the relic system was based on.

I am looking forward to fighting bigger and tougher bosses to upgrade the current relics I have.