Dark Knight DD or Tank

[Judge_Xero]

Dark Knight should be a DD.

It should be the Job Class for Botanist, due to the fact that the Botany Secondary Tool is a Scyth.

[Xedonius]

Dark Knight should be a DD.

It should be the Job Class for Botanist, due to the fact that the Botany Secondary Tool is a Scyth.

I can actually see that working:

[Alhanelem]

That's kinda wrong PLD was DD/Tank/Healer in most of the games. Dark could tank well in Ff it has been in games they had really high def.

PLD are only tanks in the mmo worlds usually pld and dark are the same kinda in the Ff world hell even in FF 11 PLD str was one the highest in the game >.>

Both have high str

both have great def

and both used swords

DRKs have never been famous for their defense. I described PLDs as defensive, you proceed to describe their non-offensive roles and then call me "kinda wrong?" I'm 0% wrong. A PLD's nature has always been to protect and defend. How it goes about doing that has varied to some degree in various games. I've never seen a dark knight portrayed as a tanky class in any game before WoW- They're always about killing and destruction. Otherwise, they wouldn't really fit their name very well, would they?

[Altena]

Mage classes need priority. Arcanist and SMN isn't enough.

Then throw in more DDs.

Or heck, throw in 2 of each, and we'll be fine.

In fear of hijacking this thread, and causing an argument - I disagree.

I would not put a "melee DD" job in the same category as a "tank". I would however put casting jobs in the same category as they still maintain a similar role. (stand in one spot most of the time- and spam spells whether it be on an enemy or a friendly).

So if we were to break it down, there are currently~

1x tank (PLD)
2x DD (MNK & DRG)
2x casters (WHM & BLM)
2x hybrids (WAR-can tank/dd & SMN-can cast & pet job)
1x Ranged / support.

So if anything we are missing a tank/support role but to be honest - keep it at 1 tank, maybe throw another support role in there (such as THF/NIN/COR) - in my opinion


To stay on topic - DRK should be a DD. I want to see scythes & great swords make an appearance - which are both heavy weapons. These sword & shield DRK fans should die in a firey pitt of the bowl of embers.

[Nayrr]

DRK should be DD imo. Also, make it's weapon Great Sword.

Also, do not plague it with being under powered in most cases like in XI

[Hart]

Dark knight should be damage dealing, I would say. Great sword would be preferable to scythe. If I remember correctly when they polled jobs, dark knight was described as an attacker that also used enfeebling. That brings the absorb spells to mind, which I wouldn't mind. I might be one of the few people who actually enjoyed XI's interpretation of dark knight, low end black magic and poison. I am very much looking forward to dark knight in XIV.

So the sooner it is announced -- the better.

[Hart]

I really miss the concept of Paladin from FF4. Cecil was frickin badass as he got higher level and got better weapons. For some reason the MMO world seems to think that Paladin can't do good damage and tank at the same time.

I think it is more of a balance issue. You can't have a class that does amazing damage has great defense and the ability to heal. No one would play any other job.

Can't hate on Cecil, though.

[TrystWildkey]

Damage Dealer, all the way.

When I started FFXI, my first ever MMO, the only job I wanted to play was DRK. I am eagerly looking forward to a Dark Knight in 14.

FFXIV gave me the opportunity to be a Lalacorn, now I want to be a tiny, spiky ball of incredibly adorable death and dismemberment!

Edit: Please don't be stingy with the magic spells for drks!

[Kagato]

Both.

Dark Knights should be mainly DD, but have unique tank-like abilities like the FFXI version of Dread Spikes. But at it's core, Dark Knight needs to be a DD... and a powerful one at that.

[Firon]

DRKs have never been famous for their defense. I described PLDs as defensive, you proceed to describe their non-offensive roles and then call me "kinda wrong?" I'm 0% wrong. A PLD's nature has always been to protect and defend. How it goes about doing that has varied to some degree in various games. I've never seen a dark knight portrayed as a tanky class in any game before WoW- They're always about killing and destruction. Otherwise, they wouldn't really fit their name very well, would they?

Drks are very tanky in offline games, when i use the word tanky i mean a class that can take hits and not die which both pld and dark can do. Only advantage pld had that it could use Cover. In FF 11 darks was very squishy.