Sum-nom-nom-eners~

[Tonkra]

SMNs also are WHMs

What the heck have you smoked? Summoners are no white mages? because in FFXI mostly all summoners used white mage as a subjob does not mean they are white mages or healers?

Summoners itself have no healing skills at all. The arcanist in FFXIV is going to be an enfeebler... he has skills like slow, poison etc.. so really nothing to do with WHM.. nor in the past ff series Summoners havent been healers or white mages either..

and we know how much people hated the idea of being a healer on SMN.

what has this to do with permanent pets? nothing at all..

The arcanist will be an enfeebling caster besides controlling and commanding the pet itself.. so it wont be any healer at all. nor the summoner in AION was a healer..

so why a summoner should be like in FFXI? it dont have to.. a permanent pet does not mean that he has to be a secondary healer.

It can be a pet class w/o the need to have the avatar out 24/7.

and why not? i want to have a damn pet-class... and not an other black mage in form of a summoner with one-hit attack spells

[Elexia]

What the heck have you smoked? Summoners are no white mages?

Once again you have proven you never played most of the FF games. Check the spell list of most of the key summoners in the series, excluding the "open" ended versions, you'll see the majority has White Magic along side summons. Rydia actually had black magic along side it.

nor the summoner in AION was a healer..

We're playing Aion XIV/A Realm Reborn? I didn't realize that, I thought we were playing Final Fantasy XIV/A Realm Reborn.

so why a summoner should be like in FFXI?

Weren't you the one stating "modern" Summoners are pet classes? FFXI was the first true FF game where it became a Pet class, since if you have forgotten, you lose access to everyone but your summon when you summoned them in FFX for example, so the first true instance is indeed FFXI.

Btw: The only reason they were healers in XI in the early days is because of the subjob system. Otherwise WHM/SCH(RDM) does just fine being the only healers in a party. Avatars are pretty much permanent entities these days...there's a reason SMNs take out WoE np without needing to constantly summon/unsummon after a BP, only when it dies.

So if anything, SE should be making it like FFXI, but with the classic route, just don't be surprised or upset if it's like the FFIII-IX version.