Sum-nom-nom-eners~

[Fantasia]

wow alot of people already crying and we dont even have the specifics on how smn is gonna play. all we know is they have the esscence of the primals. with that a faster paced battle system, i dont think that ff11 style use of summoning can fit here in ff14. you would have to actually slow down the pace of fights to match the mechanics of a pet class. thats why arcanist will have carbuncle to summon and it will have 2 roles as tank or caster. same as your chocobo when its able to join you in battle. so please can we all calm down until we actually get specifics on how summoner will work.

The point of this thread was to discuss what we would like to see and/or what we think might happen. People getting aggressive is a bit silly, I agree, but try calming it down instead or adding fuel to the fire, please~

At least you contributed something constructive though (More than some people have). I agree about the pace issue. XI was exceptionally slow when compared to the current XIV, and the combat speed of ARR is being increased again so it's easy to see that there will have to be a LOT of changes if they adopt XI's style.

[KaiserDrill]

See what i mean OP? You can never have an ongoing decent thread on these forums. Your best bet at this point is to just close it and start a different one.

[Babydoll]

It was a good thread! I guess all we can do is wait and see what they do with SMN. Hopefully it will be fun

[Fantasia]

It was a good thread! I guess all we can do is wait and see what they do with SMN. Hopefully it will be fun

Ahaha, thanks =)
Yeah, I'll be happy no matter what they do! It'll be fun =)
I wish I could close my own thread </3 I'd leave this here... I don't have the heart to delete it all yet! Maybe in an hour or two, when it's clear people won't be able to be civil again!

[Medeah]

I used to be convinced that summoner was gonna turn out to be a perma-pet job, and at the time my main question was what the "summons" would look like. From the description, the artwork and the alternate free company summoning system, I doubted they would look like the primals (like how the avatars were smaller versions of their prime). So if we were to assume they'd be perma-pets, what do you think they'd look like? Ethearal form? A completely different summon imbued with a primal essence? Just curious as to what you guys think about that....

[Fantasia]

I used to be convinced that summoner was gonna turn out to be a perma-pet job, and at the time my main question was what the "summons" would look like. From the description, the artwork and the alternate free company summoning system, I doubted they would look like the primals (like how the avatars were smaller versions of their prime). So if we were to assume they'd be perma-pets, what do you think they'd look like? Ethearal form? A completely different summon imbued with a primal essence? Just curious as to what you guys think about that....

Hadn't even considered that >.> I guess I kinda assumed they'd be smaller version of the Primals, although now I actually think about it I've had a picture of a rather "animalistic" image of Ifrit running around on all fours. So I guess I'd kinda like to see them as similar to the Primals, keeping their main features, but just making them look a bit more feral. Ifrit running around like a hell-hound, Leviathan slithering along the floor, for example. I guess if you could imagine like a "Previous evolution" in a Pokémon world, or something >.>

[KaiserDrill]

This is what i was trying to say a few pages back. I am going to x fingers for chupon. He is wind based (or was in ff vi). So the summoner will somehow transmute the essence of garuda into him? Just a thought

Seems to me like we will get lesser spirits instead of the primals. This would still allow for the whole primal story and not cheapen them (which to me makes sense from an immersion standpoint). But at the same time we could still have these lesser spirits.

Alot can be said forboth sides of this debate. Pet class won the player's poll, and yoshi has never made it a secret he was a smn in ffxi. However he did say he didnt want people walking around with primals. Im hoping for a true pet class, as ive been hoarding gear and materia for it since they revealed it.

[Alaltus]

This is what i was trying to say a few pages back. I am going to x fingers for chupon. He is wind based (or was in ff vi). So the summoner will somehow transmute the essence of garuda into him? Just a thought

Seems to me like we will get lesser spirits instead of the primals. This would still allow for the whole primal story and not cheapen them (which to me makes sense from an immersion standpoint). But at the same time we could still have these lesser spirits.

As much as i want this to be true they already pushed Ifrit with the first piece of summoner artwork so for them to then come out and say "no your not going to get ifrit but cerberus(or whoever) with ifrit inside him" would needlessly anger players who wanted to summon ifrit which just doesnt make any sense.

[Crevox]

I want them to be pets; the FFXI system was great. Your pets should be the source of your power, not you. This garbage they're doing in MMORPGs nowadays (WoW etc) where the pet is a "side thing" that does 10% of your damage is dumb. The pet should be everything as a summoner; it is your power.