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    Zezlar's Avatar
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    Amazing how they take a simple idea, and turn it into an overly complicated poor idea. Who settles for second best?
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    Rusalka Camenae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Amazing how they take a simple idea, and turn it into an overly complicated poor idea. Who settles for second best?
    Thats kind of the whole point I think. No one will be settling for second best BUT if you are unlucky, you can still get good gear while still maintaining the motivation to continue doing the raids. Just look at all the people that do skirmish and run around with skirmish weapons. They are far from being the best but the content rewards you with the items fairly easily and it gives you motivation to keep going and improve your gear in other content.

    (atleast I assume thats why people do skirmish I have only done it like twice for shits and giggles)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    Thats kind of the whole point I think. No one will be settling for second best BUT if you are unlucky, you can still get good gear while still maintaining the motivation to continue doing the raids.
    I also think that this is what they had in mind. A -30% stats of a Darklight piece is still better than most gears out there and you'd glad to wear it until you get the real one.
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    the main gripe over the last 2 years is people wanted to feel they are making progress towards the stuff they wanted items weapons etc.

    if the tokens are only used for lesser gears then there's still no progress towards what people want. you could have 100 tokens and you'd still be no closer to that main piece of armor you wanted 100 runs ago.

    and it's likely that if you have say 4/5 pieces on a particular set you could see the 4 pieces you already have dropping over and over again and never see the one piece you actually need drop. thus even with guaranteed drops it could quite easily be the same stuff time after time after time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Amazing how they take a simple idea, and turn it into an overly complicated poor idea. Who settles for second best?
    Offering the main drops for tokens is the best way. you go to av for your corselet you don't get it but you get a token so at least you know that no matter what in x number of wins you will have it. keeps you motivated. knowing that each time you're a little bit closer to your goal.
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    Guevara San
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    the main gripe over the last 2 years is people wanted to feel they are making progress towards the stuff they wanted items weapons etc.

    if the tokens are only used for lesser gears then there's still no progress towards what people want. you could have 100 tokens and you'd still be no closer to that main piece of armor you wanted 100 runs ago.

    and it's likely that if you have say 4/5 pieces on a particular set you could see the 4 pieces you already have dropping over and over again and never see the one piece you actually need drop. thus even with guaranteed drops it could quite easily be the same stuff time after time after time.


    Offering the main drops for tokens is the best way. you go to av for your corselet you don't get it but you get a token so at least you know that no matter what in x number of wins you will have it. keeps you motivated. knowing that each time you're a little bit closer to your goal.

    That's it. Dzian totally got the right point. Further discussion not needed, imho.
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