FFXIVARR Lower stats for token items

[Guevara]

First option is basically saying: "I did the dungeon but didn't get the main drop..so...GIVE ME SOMETHING JUST AS GOOD!", which is basically pointless at that point as they're giving the gear away. The 2nd option is more reasonable as a consolation prize.

Not a consolation prize really, since it is to be obtained by tokens and getting all required tokens will surely take many runs.... it's more like: "I did the dungeon MANY TIMES but NEVER got the main drop....I DESERVE SOMETHING FOR MY EFFORT"

[Elexia]

Not a consolation prize really, since it is to be obtained by tokens and getting all required tokens will surely take many runs.... it's more like: "I did the dungeon MANY TIMES but NEVER got the main drop....I DESERVE SOMETHING FOR MY EFFORT"

Indeed, but given the nature of MMORPGs nowadays I doubt it would really take awhile to get something since people are complaining about 5-15 minute cooldown timers on spammable content lol.

[Matsume]

You do realize in his example unless they significantly change the calculations when they go 1:1 that's pretty much giving away the same gear as the main drop, right? 2 extra stats will do absolutely nothing lol so you may as well just hand out the main gear for doing the dungeon once.

It's pointless to give away basically the same gear for failing to obtain the gear you wanted, there has to be a clearcut difference between a "here's your parting gift" type of gear and "here's the shit you want."

Tell that to everyone who bought primal weapons with tokens.

Indeed, but given the nature of MMORPGs nowadays I doubt it would really take awhile to get something since people are complaining about 5-15 minute cooldown timers on spammable content lol.

Supposedly, in ARR, you won't be able to do the same dungeon more than 4 times per week (unconfirmed)

[Guevara]

Indeed, but given the nature of MMORPGs nowadays I doubt it would really take awhile to get something since people are complaining about 5-15 minute cooldown timers on spammable content lol.

Yeah this could be an issue. they just need to balance very well re-entry times and tokens needed.

I would say that if one player wins around 20-30 runs of any dungeon, then he deserves a drop. and not a gimped one.

So a 1 day re-entry time could be good; by cycling through different dungeons, looting trice a week per dungeon and collecting tokens, I am sure the content will last quite long and people will be pleased ad rewarded for their efforts.



EDIT: Just one more thought: the point of tokens should be for anyone to know that if he plays a certain dungeon n times the reward will be there for him; not like today where you never know when (AND IF) something is gonna drop.

[Matsume]

People are getting sick of MMORPGs that will have you do a dungeon a few times and never touch it again -- Get to the rest of end-game and there's nothing there because you went through most content so quickly you reached the end of the MMO and now have to wait for the developer to make more. You seem to be thinking of the extreme opposite and supporting such.

Who's fault is that exactly? The developer for making content that is spammable or the player for playing 16 hours a day?

[Arcell]

Not a consolation prize really, since it is to be obtained by tokens and getting all required tokens will surely take many runs.... it's more like: "I did the dungeon MANY TIMES but NEVER got the main drop....I DESERVE SOMETHING FOR MY EFFORT"

Exactly. Done too many AV runs to count and have yet to get a Corselet lol. I think if people put the time in to run the dungeon 50+ times, they should at least get something.

Can we not have 2 sets of stats for items just so the elite/lucky can look down upon us commoners? If they make it so you need to do a good deal of runs to get enough tokens to get the gear, it's just as much effort. Those who are unlucky with the actual drops should be rewarded too after so many runs. They're just as good, and sometimes better, than those who just get lucky and get the drop.