Lets Talk - Red Mage

[Ladon]

Red Mage is a refresh and regen pez machine.



(Gets out of thread before the flames!)

.. ehehe

With the current system you can already "almost" make a red mage. Because of that they will have to do what Kiote suggests (force red mage players to use "subjobs" for all of their magical spells). I dont believe they can do it any other way without introducing some modifications to the armory system.

Or, just make Red Mage different then other FF have envisioned them.

Yeah and more considerations to the game, it really does not need another DD class. What it is in need of is a debuff class and a buff class. Arcanists/SMN looks like it's going to fill the debuff void, so sorry to say that if RDM comes along next it's very likely going to be a buffing class.

[Duelle]

Yeah and more considerations to the game, it really does not need another DD class.

I'll amend to something I said earlier: Buffing and debuffing are tertiary class aspects. Building a job around them is shallow.

And who says we don't need another DPS class? Is that one of those "let's be different for the sake of being different" things?

[Ladon]

I'll amend to something I said earlier: Buffing and debuffing are tertiary class aspects. Building a job around them is shallow.

And who says we don't need another DPS class? Is that one of those "let's be different for the sake of being different" things?

I would disagree with this. Most other MMOs have such classes that focus on buffs or debuffs then throw in a secondary role generally where the debuffer has some decent DD and the buffer can act as a secondary healer.

And I would say the game really does not have room for another DPS class. As it stands now they are having to retool monk because it hardly fills that role as is. We've got BLM for most everything and when they aren't sufficient we have DRG. MNK will likely fill in the mid-gap here between elemental and physical damage leaving very little room for a DD based Red Mage.

There is however a huge case for making a enhancing Red Mage class. Build the Red Mage class right as an enhancer and they could replace a DD in favor of improving the overall damage output of the reset of the party exceeding what the lost DD would have brought.

Throw in some skills that improve damage output of DD classes with skills that improve the overall survivability of a party and you have a class that fits the FF14 party dynamics pretty well.

[Kiote]

Yeah and more considerations to the game, it really does not need another DD class. What it is in need of is a debuff class and a buff class. Arcanists/SMN looks like it's going to fill the debuff void, so sorry to say that if RDM comes along next it's very likely going to be a buffing class.

Classes dedicated to buffing are both boring and useless. Buffs are something every member of the party should be applying to the whole party. It breeds teamwork.