New NMs

[Peregrine]

HNM camp players are a unique ilk, that's for sure. Used to be one, they have a very warped sense of what is entertainment. They have more fun knowing who loses than winning anything. Should go back to 2002 where they belong IMO.
The more "important" a NM is the more likely it should be difficult and the more likely it should be instanced or pop-spawned.

Let everyone try to fight it. Let those who can beat it get the drops.
They should not make the primary mode of entertainment standing there like an idiot waiting, vokebotting, and countercamping.

[Visch]

So you don't want anything to be hard, you just don't want other people to have the gear you do? Given enough time a vast majority of people will have it anyway, deal with it.

No they won't. KB was out forever. Barely anyone had D rings.

If an LS can kill something once they can kill it again. I'm not saying it should be easy, I'm saying difficulty does not determine rarity. If it's instanced that means it will be less rare. Please read.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

This is the kicker everyone.
Visch makes a thread for who wants 24 nm, most of us say no. And all he does is insult us assuming we want a hello kitty mmo. And everytime people feed him facts he shoots them down

Visch what server did you play on ffxi and what was your characters name and 6 highest jobs? And name the hnmls you was in with website and proof of character.

[Peregrine]

Visch and his shell have elitist issues. Not surprising that the people who came out of the closet in this thread were who they were.

That kind of game and entertainment is dead. You don't have to restrict access to a NM to make it fun. Just make the NMs so hard they kill most who try. Let anyone try who wants.

[Visch]

Should go back to 2002 where they belong IMO.

The game came out in the US in 2003 by the way. Go back to crying about easter events and getting posts removed.

Visch and his shell have elitist issues. Not surprising that the people who came out of the closet in this thread were who they were.

You have anger issues about easter events.

[Keftenk]

You have anger issues about easter events.

What the hell o_O?

[Poipori]

Difficulty is no factor. If you can kill it you can kill it again. It's not rare no matter what because everyone is killing it. Not 1 kill every 24 hours. 1 kill for every LS every 72 hours is a lot more added up.

There are really other ways of making items rare, don't just limit to thinking that camping nm is the sole solution.

Take EQ2 for example, there are special items being awarded to the first kill of an NM in the server, there is only 1 of that item exist in the entire server.

Now that promotes healthy competition, it lets guilds compete with each other to see who has the best skill in game.

This is just one example, there are many other ways of making things rare, really.

Do you really enjoy staring at the screen, waiting for pop that much?

[Peregrine]

The game came out in the US in 2003 by the way. Go back to crying about easter events and getting posts removed..

Real FFXI players imported. Scrubs started in 2003!

[Peregrine]

Do you really enjoy staring at the screen, waiting for pop that much?

Sad thing is, they really do. Anything that they can keep most people from trying, they enjoy.

[Teknoman]

Hoping these new NMs are moderately low to mid rank in power. Need to spread the Notorious love around a little.