Realm Reborn = downgrade?

[Arcell]

Thing is star, people shouldn't accept a downgrade.

In a perfect world no one would ever have to settle or compromise. Everyone would get everything they want. That is not a realistic expectation for anything however. If they really felt that they had to compromise then we kind of have to take them at their word that they had to. I'm sure they have their reasons.

[Nemy]

-Omg! i don't have a counter-argument on our relevant discussion, quick! let's attack the person behind the post!

-Omg he called it! I can't respond to this post either! Quick! Let's find a word that could imply that the post is somehow wrong and ridicule it with a picture! fetish might not be such an accurate word to use in that reference, and it sounds weird!

[IveraIvalice]

-Omg! i don't have a counter-argument on our relevant discussion, quick! let's attack the person behind the post!

-Omg he called it! I can't respond to this post either! Quick! Let's find a word that could imply that the post is somehow wrong and ridicule it with a picture! fetish might not be such an accurate word to use in that reference, and it sounds weird!

... >.< ...
it could have been over...

[IveraIvalice]

That's fine, we all kind of do, but I think some have unreasonably high expectations expecting a game that will surpass all other MMO's, the end all Blizzard killer, etc, etc. I'm thinking more along the lines that FFXIV will be different, it will have the basic features every MMO has like a killer UI, solid interface and gameplay, A MAIL SYSTEM, and as much as I would love FFXIV to be a WoW killer people shouldn't forget even if 1.0 gameplay wasn't broken at the start it would still be below most MMO standards from lack of basic features.

im not expecting the game to be a wow killer and i do hope or expect it to be similar to other mmos but still have its own style that will just make it different, but this game has to be better then standard or better then whats expected out of it, if its gonna pull people in.
kuz from the moment people start playing it again to try it out they will be looking for that wrong thing, they will dislike it before going into the game just because of the bad press that 1.0 had. and if they are just standard and live up to the general publics expectations then it wont be any better or worse then the other mmos on the market so whats making people stick with this one? its got to be better to pull in the people and make them say, wow this is amazing.
that does sound like high expectations but it kinda needs it.

[KiriA500]

-Omg! i don't have a counter-argument on our relevant discussion, quick! let's attack the person behind the post!

-Omg he called it! I can't respond to this post either! Quick! Let's find a word that could imply that the post is somehow wrong and ridicule it with a picture! fetish might not be such an accurate word to use in that reference, and it sounds weird!

Enough with the victim complex. I could keep replying to you if you want, but you clearly only read what you want, so it's useless.

[Nemy]

Enough with the victim complex. I could keep replying to you if you want, but you clearly only read what you want, so it's useless.

Okay. Reply to my last post then.

I read only what i want? Was there anything there in your last post other than a personal attack? Point it out then.

Minor issue for you =/= Minor issue for everyone.

You're trying to present the situation, like its just me, complaining about my fetish all these days. This is not the case. I'm not alone in this. Look around you.

Also, in your last 2 posts, you dropped the very relevant subject that we were talking about, to direct the discussion into a personal attack against me. It is also funny and ironic, to accuse me of complaining about a minor issue not for the future of this game and this community, but just to satisfy a personal need of showing that 2.0 isn't good enough to live up to the insanely high standards of the almighty Nemy Oinos, while at the same time, this personal attack, serves nothing other than satisfying your own personal need to ridicule and belittle my intentions in this forum.

Discussing the factor of graphics / animation = relevant.

Attacking my intentions and my relation with the game and forums = irrelevant.

So i'm not going to talk about me. I'm just going to ask you a question regarding all those, that value animation in this thread : Do you think we would post and discuss in this thread daily, if we didn't care about the future of the game?

EDIT : Victim complex? You derailing the relevant conversation to personally attack me was clearer than daylight. It's not a complex of mine.

[KiriA500]

So i'm not going to talk about me. I'm just going to ask you a question regarding all those, that value animation in this thread : Do you think we would post and discuss in this thread daily, if we didn't care about the future of the game?

So, because some of us don't care about the removal of this "inertia" animation, we don't value animation in general? As I said earlier in the thread, other games have worlds that actually have some life to them, with NPC's running around, moving, etc. You said you would rather not have that stuff, in place of having an animation present for your character when they start/stop running. In that statement, you prove that animation isn't actually all that important, just how your character moves. I'm sorry, but I cannot agree with you on any level here. I want this game to have a world that feels alive as opposed to a clunky animation I hardly ever notice anyway. (Yes, it feels clunky to me, because I don't stop moving when I actually want it to, I do that stupid stumble forward)

I'm sorry to once again make it ALL ABOUT YOU, but not everybody shares the exact same feelings as you. Someone who might want to have the inertia animations might also want to have NPC's actually do something instead of just stand around like mannequins.

EDIT : Victim complex? You derailing the relevant conversation to personally attack me was clearer than daylight. It's not a complex of mine.

Jeepers Creepers, stop. You make it sound like I'm calling you a stupid idiot (which I am not, fyi) and taking your lunch money. I'm responding to you, so I'm directing stuff at you.

[IveraIvalice]

Okay. Reply to my last post then.

no

kiriA500 im asking that you dont respond
nemy im asking that you leave it alone

i appreciate that nemy said that she would be trying to tone it down for the sake of the thread staying open.
but honestly by kiriA500 trying to stop continuing the argument, i see him being the only one making the effort to end it.
so both of you stop
none of your recent posts have been relevant to the topic, this is all unnecessary provoking and none of it is needed.
ignore each other
i cant believe i actually have to say all this

[Zaireeka2025]

i agree and i think this thread shows that the animations have to stay.
i havent heard a single person say they hated the polish animations and their happy there gone for the sake of visuals
i've heard people say if they had to choose between gameplay and animations that gameplay wins, ive heard that they can live with cutting these animations for the sake of gameplay but since animations doesnt actually affect gameplay, i think its safe to say everyone wants them back

if there is anyone here who can honestly say they want the animations to stay cut from the game even knowing that it DOES NOT, at all, 0% affect the gameplay/ reaction time/ casting time/ action time/ movement time or anything else, then i think i can confirm that that person likes crappy games
none of us want this game to be crappy, visually, aesthetically, technically, or in any way.

so SE make the right decision, we stuck with you through thick and thin, we all want you to succeed, you said you would need the communities feedback if you were to make this rebirth possible, we're giving you the feedback, listen to your fans, dont let us down

Well stated, my friend.

[IveraIvalice]

I want this game to have a world that feels alive as opposed to a clunky animation I hardly ever notice anyway. (Yes, it feels clunky to me, because I don't stop moving when I actually want it to, I do that stupid stumble forward)

so what im getting from this is that you possibly like the animations but that they very slightly lower your control for the sake of realistic movement?
i have to ask, does it really bother you enough to call it clunky since its stuff that doesnt affect battle, since its out of combat movement and that slight slow out doesnt affect playability much at all, isnt it something that shouldnt be a problem or hinder the game at all?