In 12 years the game hasn't innovated

[Kohashi]

Where one draws the line on "innovation" is arbitrary. If you're just gonna say.. rather reductively imo: "oh x isn't new, it's just y with z" then yeah, nothing will ever be innovative to you.

5k posts from someone who apparently, doesn't enjoy the game is hilarious.

Now that's real talk. It's funny to see them still posting the same things they always do, still not enjoying the game, and still complaining about it. Caught up in a loop of self-inflicted misery and posing as the victim.

[YumieYumiki]

Where one draws the line on "innovation" is arbitrary. If you're just gonna say.. rather reductively imo: "oh x isn't new, it's just y with z" then yeah, nothing will ever be innovative to you.

"Just y with z" is not innovative. One can always delude themselves into thinking that this constitutes "innovation", but it doesn't change reality.

[Valence]

Now that's real talk. It's funny to see them still posting the same things they always do, still not enjoying the game, and still complaining about it. Caught up in a loop of self-inflicted misery and posing as the victim.

What's real talk is assuming that I'm not enjoying the game. Keep deluding yourself

[Kohashi]

What's real talk is assuming that I'm not enjoying the game. Keep deluding yourself

I think you lurk in the forums more than playing the actual game. I think at this point, you just keep the sub running to be able to post here.

[Kaurhz]

I think you lurk in the forums more than playing the actual game. I think at this point, you just keep the sub running to be able to post here.

Is multitasking a difficult concept for you? There a very few activities in this game that require ongoing attention, so it's very easy to play and post, or play and watch YouTube/Netflix etc.,

[Themarvin]

the game has changed to the better just not enough content to cover it, so yes the game has been innovating during the past 12 years.....

Still stuck on quite a few things like 20 button jobs, that could be cut down to like 10 and be getting more harsh and visual bosses instead and so on and so forth and unskipable mechanics.

[Shurrikhan]

I don't see why cutting job kits down to PvP size or less (10 keys total) for PvE would somehow be an improvement unless that size were used far, far more interestingly than in the PvP kits.

While by no means a measure of the total enjoyment possible to a fight, hitting a striking dummy in Wolf's Den is far duller than outside it, and that baseline is shared across all content.

[Valence]

I think you lurk in the forums more than playing the actual game. I think at this point, you just keep the sub running to be able to post here.

It's true that the current DoH/DoL relics afford me unparalleled time to visit the forums while my macros are running.

You got me there.

[Aidorouge]

Is multitasking a difficult concept for you? There a very few activities in this game that require ongoing attention, so it's very easy to play and post, or play and watch YouTube/Netflix etc.,

Aye, it takes less than an hour for me to skulk through the forums reading things. It takes only slightly longer if I stop to actually post anything.

This place isn't exactly a daunting task to complete, even while playing the game at the same time.

[MayuAmakura]

I don't see why cutting job kits down to PvP size or less (10 keys total) for PvE would somehow be an improvement unless that size were used far, far more interestingly than in the PvP kits.

While by no means a measure of the total enjoyment possible to a fight, hitting a striking dummy in Wolf's Den is far duller than outside it, and that baseline is shared across all content.

Thing is that a lot of pvp abilities / spells are far more interesting than pve ones. Can't deny that. Some even have proper function and feel like they should really be in pve.