Multiverse Final Fantasy MMORPG (What could have been)

[Firon]

Sorry to dwindle your post down to just this, but I felt compelled to say that I really love FFXII. FFXIII I wasn't impressed, but that's just 1 (official numbered, discounting FFXIII-2) game, so really my statement would then read:

"I did not like the last Final Fantasy." Or..."I did not like the Final Fantasy before this one," since FFXIV is the highest numbered one to date, and I rather enjoy this game.

But since I liked IX, VI, VII, IX, XI and XII so much, they still have pretty solid track record in my mind. So basically my point is just, I don't understand why everyone gives SE such a hard time...

I can agree with this i loved FF 13 although i hate FF2 and wont ever play it again. I die a little inside when ppl say they liked FF 10 but hate 13 both are basically made the same way >.>. One just has useless towns the other one doesn't.

Only thing FF 13 was lacking for me was back tracking to old area's.

[ApplePie]

Only works if paradox and memory erase explains everything. Paradox is the reason for everything. Homework missing? Future you stole it to turn in /paradox Dog missing? Past you decided to take dog back because accidentally killed it /paradox. Game sucks? Future you told you to stop playing it /paradox. etc.

[Arcturus]

So like a Kingdom Hearts MMORPG?

Yeah, no thanks.

[Zantetsuken]

I can agree with this i loved FF 13 although i hate FF2 and wont ever play it again. I die a little inside when ppl say they liked FF 10 but hate 13 both are basically made the same way >.>. One just has useless towns the other one doesn't.

Only thing FF 13 was lacking for me was back tracking to old area's.

Heh, when I played 13, I remember everything I hated about 10. Nomura Action game = no thanks. And FF2 is easily the worst of the numbered series.

Fortunately, FF11, and FF12 (esp intl. Zodiac) were so good, SE got lots of slack from me with 10 and 13...

But overall, I'm rather tired Nomura's art and I completely disagree with Toriyama/Kitase's philosophy when it comes to FF games:

From Wikipedia (emphasis mine):

Motomu Toriyama has a similar game design philosophy to Yoshinori Kitase. He believes his strength is in creating games that are very story-driven.[2] He also believes that it becomes very difficult to tell a compelling story when the player is given a huge amount of freedom to explore.[3] According to him, the most important aspect of a Final Fantasy game is the characters.[4] Toriyama aimed for the game design of the first half of Final Fantasy XIII to play like watching a film. The reason was so the player could become absorbed with the story and characters and not get distracted or lost

This is why FFXIII was such a lousy Final Fantasy game, despite being a half-decent action game.

Sometimes I wish SE would just break the series up into subgroups:

• Final Fantasy Worlds: FF1-9, 12,
• Final Fantasy Dramatic Action: FF10, 10-2, 13, 13-2,
• Final Fantasy Online: FF11, 14
• Final Fantasy Tactics: FFT, A, A2, 12rw, etc.
• Final Fantasy Dissidia: Dissidia, Duodecim, etc.

Oh, and:

• Final Fantasy Abominations: FFMQ

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

Only works if paradox and memory erase explains everything. Paradox is the reason for everything. Homework missing? Future you stole it to turn in /paradox Dog missing? Past you decided to take dog back because accidentally killed it /paradox. Game sucks? Future you told you to stop playing it /paradox. etc.

Future paradox won't stop most people from themselves I think.

If the folks here who hated FF13 had a future them surface.

Future "You're not going to like this game."
You "It's Final Fantasy."
Future "I'm you from the future! I've played this game! I didn't like it, hence, you won't like it."
You "Maybe I'm different, because I don't have the same tastes as you."
Future "We're the same person! Fine! You don't want to listen?"
*Future you steals your money from present-day you and returns to future*
You "Could have told me the winning lotto numbers, jerk."

[Mushy]

Again people taking your words and twisting it.
"First off the new elder scrolls MMO is doing something like this"


Is it a little different in final fantasy because the worlds are different? does EVERYONE and their momma know excatly what the elder scrolls series is about? did you just waste your time?

the answer to all these questions is yes.

We know they are part of the same story but thats moot.
My point which is not even remotely moot is that they are putting places from different games into one game. thats total fan service. i would love to visit midgar, from ff7 then Zanarkand from ff10. how they do it is up to them.

I mean this is the same company that gave us a "portal" to a place where we were walking on the sky and another portal to a place where we walked onthe sea and had fish pop out from underneth us and attack (FF11 for all of you who did not play it). this would not be crazy if you really thing about it.

yes your point is moot, TES games are one world final fantasy games are a different world.. if they made an mmo of the world for TES then you would be able to go to all of these places(ie not fan service because i repeat SAME WORLD.) for a FF it would make no sense and even if they did try to explain it, IT WOULD BE STUPID. now shut your trap you are making no sense. SHUT IT

[Firon]

Heh, when I played 13, I remember everything I hated about 10. Nomura Action game = no thanks. And FF2 is easily the worst of the numbered series.

Fortunately, FF11, and FF12 (esp intl. Zodiac) were so good, SE got lots of slack from me with 10 and 13...

But overall, I'm rather tired Nomura's art and I completely disagree with Toriyama/Kitase's philosophy when it comes to FF games:

From Wikipedia (emphasis mine):



This is why FFXIII was such a lousy Final Fantasy game, despite being a half-decent action game.

Sometimes I wish SE would just break the series up into subgroups:

• Final Fantasy Worlds: FF1-9, 12,
• Final Fantasy Dramatic Action: FF10, 10-2, 13, 13-2,
• Final Fantasy Online: FF11, 14
• Final Fantasy Tactics: FFT, A, A2, 12rw, etc.
• Final Fantasy Dissidia: Dissidia, Duodecim, etc.

Oh, and:

• Final Fantasy Abominations: FFMQ

I can agree with everything you said, just strikes me odd the crowed that loved FF 10 so much has gripes when 13 when they are designed the same way. I just like each FF for what they were, I don't hate something just because it's not like the last one. Only reason i say i hate FF 2 cause of its battle system. So in the FF lifespan i loved FF IV, IX, XII, and XIII the most. Spent the most time playing those.

[Mushy]

the best mainline final fantasy? NOT AT ALL.

final fantasy tactics.
final fantasy xii.
final fantasy 7 and 8 even, and they are way more mainstream.
ffx is better too.
hell, final fantasy 5 and 6? hands down better.

ffix was a HUGE step back in FF quality.
its funny how even the older final fantasy titles have better art than ffix's crap. they are hideously deformed. the proportions are all wrong on most people... but on some not. consistency, can I have it?









^^ I can't believe you'd even dare compare this.







^^ with this crap.

the art is so lousy on this game that garnet's arms are longer's than zidane's while HE is actually taller.
its like they used different canons for everyone.

half the people look like super deformed midgets with down syndrome while kuja is actually a full sized human being.

You need to take one or two art classes.

haha okay you slam 9 because of its disproportion of arm size? then slam 7 ugliest final fantasy and way over hyped. 8 was horrible. tactics was amazing but not a mainline final fantasy. everyone has their favourite final fantasy title but your opinion on 9 is stupid and like I said before your reasonings are a stretch.. seriously who gives a fk?! it is the best final fantasy on the ps1 and ps2(not counting XI) and second is XII which was basically offline XI with a different world.
Where do you get all this resentment from? and art classes? the art style is chibi and is a throw back to the sprite based final fantasies(also chibi) which is why they used the art style in the first place. go back to art class. and stop sharing your opinion because you sound like an idiot 'ZOMG HES TALLER BUT THEIR ARMS ARE THE SAME SIZE GUIS ITS A HORRIBLE GAME!' ya... shut up

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

FFMQ forever!!! If your ally could level up / pick your all(y/ies), my goodness.

It says I had to put something to post the hidden box... but does it have to be in non-white text?

[Zantetsuken]

I was a bit miffed about the super-deformed characters at first, but since FFI-FFVI all had super deformed chars I understand the reasoning. (I know, I know.. the concpept art for I-VI wasn't super deformed, but gameplay graphics were).

The only area where FFIX really suffered was the story... It just felt lacking. But it was a cute and nostalgic game that had lots of little nods to the 8-bit and 16-bit era of FF. On top of it all, it was actually a really fun game to play, so I think SE did a good job with it.



BTW, does anyone remember the compeltely worthless US strategy guide for FFIX? Every bit of useful info required you to log into a website and put a code in.. it was beyond terrible.