Multiverse Final Fantasy MMORPG (What could have been)

[Wincy]

Its hard to argue that Square Enix has made a well conceived Final Fantasy title since Final Fantasy X (FFX).

Sorry to dwindle your post down to just this, but I felt compelled to say that I really love FFXII. FFXIII I wasn't impressed, but that's just 1 (official numbered, discounting FFXIII-2) game, so really my statement would then read:

"I did not like the last Final Fantasy." Or..."I did not like the Final Fantasy before this one," since FFXIV is the highest numbered one to date, and I rather enjoy this game.

But since I liked IV, VI, VII, IX, XI and XII so much, they still have pretty solid track record in my mind. So basically my point is just, I don't understand why everyone gives SE such a hard time...

[Firon]

Sorry to dwindle your post down to just this, but I felt compelled to say that I really love FFXII. FFXIII I wasn't impressed, but that's just 1 (official numbered, discounting FFXIII-2) game, so really my statement would then read:

"I did not like the last Final Fantasy." Or..."I did not like the Final Fantasy before this one," since FFXIV is the highest numbered one to date, and I rather enjoy this game.

But since I liked IX, VI, VII, IX, XI and XII so much, they still have pretty solid track record in my mind. So basically my point is just, I don't understand why everyone gives SE such a hard time...

I can agree with this i loved FF 13 although i hate FF2 and wont ever play it again. I die a little inside when ppl say they liked FF 10 but hate 13 both are basically made the same way >.>. One just has useless towns the other one doesn't.

Only thing FF 13 was lacking for me was back tracking to old area's.

[Zantetsuken]

I can agree with this i loved FF 13 although i hate FF2 and wont ever play it again. I die a little inside when ppl say they liked FF 10 but hate 13 both are basically made the same way >.>. One just has useless towns the other one doesn't.

Only thing FF 13 was lacking for me was back tracking to old area's.

Heh, when I played 13, I remember everything I hated about 10. Nomura Action game = no thanks. And FF2 is easily the worst of the numbered series.

Fortunately, FF11, and FF12 (esp intl. Zodiac) were so good, SE got lots of slack from me with 10 and 13...

But overall, I'm rather tired Nomura's art and I completely disagree with Toriyama/Kitase's philosophy when it comes to FF games:

From Wikipedia (emphasis mine):

Motomu Toriyama has a similar game design philosophy to Yoshinori Kitase. He believes his strength is in creating games that are very story-driven.[2] He also believes that it becomes very difficult to tell a compelling story when the player is given a huge amount of freedom to explore.[3] According to him, the most important aspect of a Final Fantasy game is the characters.[4] Toriyama aimed for the game design of the first half of Final Fantasy XIII to play like watching a film. The reason was so the player could become absorbed with the story and characters and not get distracted or lost

This is why FFXIII was such a lousy Final Fantasy game, despite being a half-decent action game.

Sometimes I wish SE would just break the series up into subgroups:

• Final Fantasy Worlds: FF1-9, 12,
• Final Fantasy Dramatic Action: FF10, 10-2, 13, 13-2,
• Final Fantasy Online: FF11, 14
• Final Fantasy Tactics: FFT, A, A2, 12rw, etc.
• Final Fantasy Dissidia: Dissidia, Duodecim, etc.

Oh, and:

• Final Fantasy Abominations: FFMQ

[Firon]

Heh, when I played 13, I remember everything I hated about 10. Nomura Action game = no thanks. And FF2 is easily the worst of the numbered series.

Fortunately, FF11, and FF12 (esp intl. Zodiac) were so good, SE got lots of slack from me with 10 and 13...

But overall, I'm rather tired Nomura's art and I completely disagree with Toriyama/Kitase's philosophy when it comes to FF games:

From Wikipedia (emphasis mine):



This is why FFXIII was such a lousy Final Fantasy game, despite being a half-decent action game.

Sometimes I wish SE would just break the series up into subgroups:

• Final Fantasy Worlds: FF1-9, 12,
• Final Fantasy Dramatic Action: FF10, 10-2, 13, 13-2,
• Final Fantasy Online: FF11, 14
• Final Fantasy Tactics: FFT, A, A2, 12rw, etc.
• Final Fantasy Dissidia: Dissidia, Duodecim, etc.

Oh, and:

• Final Fantasy Abominations: FFMQ

I can agree with everything you said, just strikes me odd the crowed that loved FF 10 so much has gripes when 13 when they are designed the same way. I just like each FF for what they were, I don't hate something just because it's not like the last one. Only reason i say i hate FF 2 cause of its battle system. So in the FF lifespan i loved FF IV, IX, XII, and XIII the most. Spent the most time playing those.