Please do something about dps survavibility in OC

[CNitsah]

It's a pain in the ass.

If you don't have a heal or your heal is bad, you just chain die with unavoidable dots or raid wides : IT'S NOT FUN.

The knight protection buff doesn't help, the expensive gear doesn't help on that side either, the new ultra potion barely helps, the mastery bonus totally ignore protection or hp bonus, contrary to what Bozja/Zadnord did.

The only ways to avoid that is either playing tank (that's nice, let's all play tanks, I guess that what you're looking for, since tanks can heal and dps too), either play heal (yeah, let's design a content that ignores 13 of the 21 jobs in the game), either using a phantom job that can heal, but then why the heck would I even run the freaking content if I can't xp my other phantom jobs? Get an already useless gear for other classes?

I know you did that so healer could have something to do, and it's a good thing you tried, but it's time to look at reality : it failed to achieve what you wanted to do. So now, please do something. Idk, add a recup potion like the eureka potion or add a HP bonus in the mastery bonus, two solution you implemented in the past, that should make it better.

[Jeeqbit]

Maybe the answer is to hope you get a healer in your party, or specifically ask for one in shout when recruiting for the party, or ask if someone will switch.

[Asari5]

i was mostly solo in oc... as dragoon.
sure if you make a mistake, die and then cant get full before the next aoe hits you are helpless. and there are a few fights you cant survive alone even without mistakes.

its fun that way though. i dont whish for it to be different.

not every job combination has to be possible for every fight!

[yesnt]

I know you did that so healer could have something to do, and it's a good thing you tried, but it's time to look at reality : it failed to achieve what you wanted to do.

How did it fail?

[Valence]

This is funny in a way. Heals and other mechanics other than DDR being needed is actually good. But that's where it becomes interesting in content that doesn't guarantees certain roles of the trinity to play along the system: in Eureka/Bozja you could just take logograms or lost actions to alleviate your survivability, but here, you can't.
Now if was willing to indulge in some doom posting, watch SE permanently delete survivability requirements like they did in deep dungeons instead of fixing the damn problem...

[Azurarok]

You'd think that's what phantom jobs should be for, letting you cross role boundaries with different ones. Bozja did it with just 2 buttons and a passive, Variant Dungeons also do it just fine with 2 buttons as well.

[CNitsah]

How did it fail?

It wanted to push people to play heal, the result is that it pushed people to play tanks because tanks are broken. Never saw that many tanks than in OC.

And yeah, I feel the "just wait to have a heal in your party" is not a good solution enough.

You'd think that's what phantom jobs should be for, letting you cross role boundaries with different ones. Bozja did it with just 2 buttons and a passive, Variant Dungeons also do it just fine with 2 buttons as well.

Yeah, on the paper, that's what it is. Practically, you only reach that state when you've finished leveling all your phantom jobs, which take A LOT of time, or decided to ignore some (or are ready to to lvl them up to a sluggish rate).

[yesnt]

It wanted to push people to play heal, the result is that it pushed people to play tanks because tanks are broken. Never saw that many tanks than in OC.

So the problem isn't healers, it's tanks.

[Azurarok]

Yeah, on the paper, that's what it is. Practically, you only reach that state when you've finished leveling all your phantom jobs, which take A LOT of time, or decided to ignore some (or are ready to to lvl them up to a sluggish rate).

Yeah if they let us slot in one or two skills from a phantom job that you've mastered that would've made it a lot more interesting.

[AmiableApkallu]

Heals and other mechanics other than DDR being needed is actually good.

What content in OC does this actually refer to? Every encounter, at least outside of Forked Tower, that I can think of falls into the now-standard mold: moving away from the bad, and healing after unavoidable AoEs.

You'd think that's what phantom jobs should be for, letting you cross role boundaries with different ones.

Each phantom job is the core essence of the job (or someone's idea of it, anyway), not some generic collection buttons from a role.

People keep asking for flavor, but when finally presented with it, I guess no one actually wants it, because flavor means having strengths and weaknesses, things that only you can do and things where you're reliant on others to fill the gap.